Tee-Time in Prince Edward: abrupt change from celebration to financial crisis raises questions.
Is this a case of public resources being diverted for private profit?
Were taxpayers blindsided and ripped-off?
Responsible community leaders silent.
Familiar names emerge.
Regular readers of the Iconoclast may recall that I grew up in Southside Virginia as a kid. So here is a new story from my old stomping grounds, the background on which is provided through news clippings and other relevant documents.
If by any chance you happen to be a taxpayer who sometimes wonders where your tax dollars wind up (probably all of our readers) , this ought to get your attention.
Part I: Official Disclaimer-- My personal love of golf!
Not so long ago, I guess I was at my zenith as an aspiring golf champion... you know... the easy money, the chicks, the travel to exotic places.
I was always into sports and my grandfather absolutely loved golf. So I got the bug early and did pretty well as a teenager. But as I grew older other distractions, including a few sports injuries, girls, getting married and starting a family, tragically sidelined my career as a championship golfer.
Sigh…
Be that as it may, I still love golf and still hold the personal belief that there can not be enough golf courses. Every community should have a golf course. What the heck…every neighborhood should have a golf course. And, on top of that, they should all be free to the public or at least very cheap.
Dream on… it ain’t going to happen! Reason being: practical economics.
Golfing is a great sport... but...
Golfing is an expensive hobby. Golf courses are expensive. Unquestionably, golf is the biggest and most expensive "board game" that was ever invented. Golf courses require hundreds of acres to entertain a relatively small number of users... about 150 acres for a 18 hole course built to the latest recommended standards for high quality courses.
But that is not the least of it.
Have you recently checked into the cost of the cutting edge equipment that is a must if you are to be competitive?
I would not say that golf is a sport only for the rich, but it is for people with a fair amount of discretionary disposable income available for recreation. You have got to really love the game in order to willingly soak up those membership dues and green fees, the cost of a decent set of clubs, the travel and incidental costs that seem to just come with the turf. (Sorry about that pun.)
Fact is: The "sport" of golf is about money, real estate, and ... well.... money... Golf courses are often built as "centerpieces" of much larger real estate developments as a way to attract a certain caliber of clientel and their money.
Sometimes there are questions concerning the environmental impacts of golf courses on their host communities, but that is another story.
For the most part, golf courses are nice facilities to have in a community for those who can afford to use them and so long as such developments are paid for by private investors and users.
Having gotten my official disclaimer out of the way, we can now move on to our new unfolding story… a story that has been brought to the Iconoclast by our readers in Southside Virginia over the past several months.
PART II: No public resources at risk?
For months… no… years… the local newspaper, The Farmville Herald, has trumpeted the progress of the long awaited Poplar Hill Golf Course and all that it's supporters have promised in economic development and far reaching benefits to the community.
The new golf course and associated facilities including a suitably impressive clubhouse, inn /hotel, and conference center was to be developed through the publicly sanctioned Poplar Hill Community Development Authority (CDA).
As originally explained in official public records, the CDA project activities were not going to require any investment of County funds and would not put any tax dollars at risk. Official documents report that large "institutional investors" would bear all the risk for the CDA through their purchase of tax exempt bonds. On the basis of these assumptions, the Prince Edward Board of Supervisors created the Poplar Hill CDA in 1999.
Earlier this summer, June 14th to be exact, the Poplar Hill Community CDA celebrated a long awaited “Grand Opening” of their brand new and highly acclaimed 18 hole golf course. Other anticipated CDA developed facilities, including the planned club house (a temporary club house was built), the inn /hotel and the conference center would have to wait. The golf course "Grand Opening" was attended by local dignitaries and was reported with great fanfare in The Farmville Herald.
This facility was reputed to have the finest of grasses and was designed and built to “championship” standards as recommended by the United States Golfing Association (USGA).
This is the kind of golf course that aspires to host major golfing events drawing the biggest names in the sport and thousands of avid golfing groupies, who spend millions of dollars in lodging, meals, related entertainment, attire, etc. This is a major sports / leisure industry that communities like Myrtle Beach, Hilton Head and Pinehurst, to name a few, have cashed in on in recent years.
Just as a point of interest... Myrtle Beach claims to have over a hundred golf courses available to visitors. Hilton Head boasts 25 “championship” quality courses, and more for the less discriminating. Pinehurst, North Carolina, long know for its good golfing, has only a paltry 29 golf courses. But they are very nice ones with lots of amenities.
These kinds of world class facilities also tend to spin off some pretty impressive real estate ventures for upscale housing for knowledgeable investors or well connected insiders.
As wonderful as this may seem, Prince Edward County is not currently known as a major golfing destination in the known “world of golf.” It would seem that local Prince Edward County officials aspire to change that perception.
However, while the potential for profits may exist, there are some very real risks for those who put up the money to undertake these multi-million dollar developments.
So years back the Prince Edward County Board of Supervisors set out on a mission and put into place the legal creation of the Poplar Hill Community Development Authority... otherwise known as the Poplar Hill CDA.
Under the auspices of the County Board of Supervisors the Poplar Hill CDA was created to develop a golf course and other support facilities, presumably to serve the public interest by stimulating local economic development. According to official records, the financial risks were to be born by "institutional investors" including large mutual funds, banks, insurance companies, etc. and not the taxpayers.
No risk to the taxpayers!
So far so good...
Except for one thing…
As reported in The Farmville Herald on July 12th, less than 30 days after the June 14th “Grand Opening” of this beautiful golf course, the Poplar Hill Community Development Authority was facing … gasp… foreclosure on key assets!
Foreclosure!
Part III: Opps... A do over please?
Foreclosure… such a nasty word…
The foreclosure notice established July 28th, for the public sale of approximately 120 acres of land owned by the Poplar Hill CDA.
The real estate involved in the foreclosure included the land that was previously planned for development as a inn /hotel and conference center and so called “snaking section” that could have become an additional nine holes of golf.
The local newspaper, The Farmville Herald, has reported that the anticipated foreclosure “…sale would have no direct impact on the golf course or a planned residential area…” The Herald also stated in their headlines that the foreclosure “could impact the inn, conference center site, not new golf course.”
Could impact the inn… conference center… but not the golf course?
Let us be charitable…
Seriously... at the very best... this editorial phraseology is not just questionable... it is down right ominous...a feeble attempt to put an optimistic face on a seriously troubling situation.
Of course the foreclosure on a significant real estate asset of the Poplar Hill CDA, that being the site reserved for the inn / hotel site and conference center would indeed impact the golf course! And not in a good way!
The whole idea for creating the Poplar Hill CDA in the first place was to generally benefit the economy of the area. Now critical elements of the "centerpiece" public facilities are in jeopardy.
Golf courses do not exist in a vacuum. They must be part of an overall community including lodging, restaurants, and a whole host of other services and amenities... the whole hospitality industry...
Golf courses need lots of paying golfers with cash to spend in support of the investments made, operations,routine maintenance, etc.
There may be a problem here!!!
Local observers report basic construction work on the development is still incomplete and relatively few golfers are showing up… at least… maybe not enough to pay the bills for a multi-million dollar development, including what has been publicly reported to be an $8.8 million dollar taxpayer backed U.S. Government loan guarantee.
This taxpayer backed loan guarantee is curious considering that the Poplar Hill CDA was originally portrayed as putting no tax dollars at risk.
This U.S. government loan guarantee, through Rural Development, is reported in The Farmville Herald to be due to the favorable political intervention of Congressman Virgil Goode, overriding concerns of Rural Development officials who were reported to have not been so enthusiatic about the risks and economics of the project. Considering that Rural Development's mission is to support essential public facilities and services, there may have been some other legitimate questions concerning the appropriatness of publicly financing a golf course to support speculative real estate development.
What few jobs there might have been for local workers are now in question for the foreseeable future. Without an inn / hotel and conference center, there will be no conferences, no tournaments, no masses of well healed golfers and tourists.
Obviously, this would not be an appropriate subject for the Iconoclast, or a public concern were it not for the considerable public resources that have been put at risk by public officials on the Prince Edward County Board of Supervisors (and in Washington) on the faith that all will eventually work out satisfactorily.
So far things have not worked out so well for the public interests. Maybe the private investors are safe and out of harms way but the public interests are in jeopardy.
Given the recent foreclosure on a critical land asset, it would seem reasonable that the responsible local officials might have some explaining to do.
Part IV: Who has the answers?
Who is responsible?
The answer to the question… “Who is responsible?”… is literally a cavalcade of the “ who’s who” of the most important citizens of the area…
The public record is fairly clear…
When the idea of thePoplar Hill Community Development Authority (CDA)was first initiated, it was led by a number of influential citizens and representatives from prominent local institutions. Public records indicate favorable recommendations for the CDA from representatives from Longwood University, Hampton Sydney College, the local Chamber of Commerce, individual local business persons and investors. Some of these supporters appear to have had real estate or financial interests in common with the Poplar Hill CDA.
Then Chairman of the Board of Supervisors, one gentleman by the name of Hunter Watson, was known to be an “avid golfer” who coincidentally had certain financial /real estate interests that directly related to the creation of the Poplar Hill CDA.
A Declaration and Disclosure Statement was rerecorded in the June 8, 1999 Board minutes stating Chairman Watson's personal financial interests in Poplar Hill Associates, LLC as an investor, and declaring that he would not participate in the discussions or votes concerning the Poplar Hill CDA.
Notwithstanding this official declaration (June 8, 1999), Board minutes of July 13, 1999 record that then Chairman Watson not only recommended appointments to the Poplar Hill CDA board of directors, but also voted for the appointments he recommended. This was a controversial vote with three dissenting votes. These actions did raise questions about the potential of "conflicts of interest", but nothing ever came of it so far as public was concerned.
Sources close to the situation have provided news reports confirming that Mr. Watson resigned, mid-term, effective January 1, 2003, as Supervisor and Chairman of the Board of Supervisors. Chairman Watson’s resignation occurred only after Poplar Hill CDA was created by the Board of Supervisors and only after he had taken part in making key appointments to the Poplar Hill CDA board to oversee the planned developments... developments related to real estate holdings that he had interests in.
One of Chairman Watson’s choices, confirmed by the Board of Supervisors, to the CDA board of directors was Supervisor and Vice Chairman Howard Simpson… the same person who is still Supervisor and Vice Chairman of the Prince Edward County Board of Supervisors. He was appointed to represent the interests of the citizens of Prince Edward County on the Poplar Hill CDA in 1999 and has remained in that position to this day.
Vice Chairman Simpson is well known as being a "regular fixture" in the Courthouse, frequently in the offices of the County Administrator, but normally a man of few public words. Although he has been the official representative of the Board on the Poplar Hill CDA since 1999, he has rarely reported on the subject since his appointment to the Poplar Hill CDA in 1999.
Observers have asked what Vice Chairman Simpson has been doing all those hours that he has been hanging out out in the County Administrators office in recent years.
In early 2004 (Feburary 10, 2004), the Prince Edward County Board of Supervisor’s minutes report that the Poplar Hill Community Development Authority “is comprised of approximately 1,063 acres of which Hampden Sydney Poplar Hill LLC owns approximately 192 acres,: Poplar Hill Associates, LLC owns approximately 195 acres; and Poplar Hill Development Group, LLC owns approximately 238 acres. The remaining 435 acres are owned by the Poplar Hill Community Development Authority.”
This quote from the official records is confusing as the CDA is a publicly created organization and the LLCs are private for-profit organizations. However, the LLCs seem to be lumped all together as part of the CDA initiative. Related yes. The same thing no.
Remember, former Chairman Watson declared a personal financial interest in the Poplar Hill Associates, LLC.
The one obvious question is how the Poplar Hill CDA can go from celebration to financial crisis in less than 30 days?
It is inconceivable that the Poplar Hill CDA board members could not have been aware of the impending financial crisis on the day of the "Grand Opening". In fact, CDA attorney Harlan Horton has indicated to the local press that the CDA attempted to negotiate a "payout on the note" as far back as last October... almost a year ago. Why was this not publicly reported by responsible County officials earlier?
Also, there are questions concerning how anyone can logically claim that the forclosure of the 120 acre site which was to be the location of critical support facilities (inn / hotel and conference center) would have no impact on the golf course or planned residential area. Such claims defy common sense.
Most recently, on September 12, Prince Edward Board Supervisor Lacy Ward submitted a formal request to the Board to require that Vice Chairman Howard Simpson, the Board's long-time member of the Poplar Hill CDA, give a status report on the situation with the Poplar Hill CDA. This request asked that Vice Chairman Simpson specifically give "an in depth status report on the CDA operations" and " pay particular attention to the forclosure action and it's impact on the overall CDA plan, the overall financial status of the CDA to include loan balances, income for operation of the golf course, etc."
Sources who were present at the Board meeting reported that Vice Chairman Simpson, the Board's long time appointment to the CDA board reacted to the request with total silence!
In fact, the whole issue was met with silence by the entire Board. Chairman William "Buckie" Fore showed little reaction and moved on to the next item on the agenda after no discussion.
Readers of the Iconoclast may remember Chairman "Buckie" Fore, as the Board's Chairman since former Chairman Watson resigned. Local observers have suggested that Fore may have been a "favorite" (read "hand picked" ) by the former Chairman Hunter Watson to succeed him as Chairman. Furthermore, Chairman Fore is known to have a long time employee / employer relationship with the local newspaper, The Farmville Herald. (You may conclude from this fact whatever you wish.)
Contrary to earlier public representations, it is clear that public tax dollars have been put at risk to finance the developments of the Poplar Hill CDA. Other interests related to the golf course but privately owned included the Hampden Sydeny Poplar Hill LLC, Poplar Hill Associates LLC, and Poplar Hill Development Group LLC appear to be deriving advantage from the public initiative and risk through the Poplar Hill CDA.
Other significant investments of public funds have been in the past and may still be under consideration to support the Poplar Hill CDA and the various identified for-profit private entities (the LLCs). This may include grants from the Tobacco Commission and the Virginia Department of Transportation. VDOT is presently considering a major road project directly serving the project (U.S. Route 15). Also,former Chairman of the Poplar Hill CDA, Scott M. Harwood, was identified in a 2005 request to the Virginia Tobacco Commission for a $1.7 million special projects grant for activities specifically supporting the Poplar Hill Inn and Conference Center (the site for which has been recently forclosed on by the bank).
Mr. Harwood has since resigned from the Poplar Hill CDA and now serves on the board of directors for the Virginia Tobacco Commission.
Given the recent public revelation of the bank forclosure on significant real estate holdings of the Poplar Hill CDA and the possibility that OTHER public funds may still be under consideration for investment in the project, it is indeed necessary for responsible public officials to start answering questions.
For starters, why was the public blindsided? Why are public funds being used to support this speculative real estate venture? Are public funds being put at risk so that private for-profit entities may reap the profits? Who are the real beneficiaries of this project?
While non-committal during the September 12th Board meeting Chairman Fore and Vice Chairman Simpson owe it to the public to start providing some long overdue answers to these serious questions.
Presumably, the next shoe will drop in October.
Will the public get the long overdue answers?
This will be one to watch... to be sure!
Finally… as we know… the wheels of Prince Edward County Government... and its off-spring... the Poplar Hill CDA... could not have moved without the bureaucrats who work behind the scenes to make things happen. One such individual pictured (above) recently out on the fairway of the new golf course is none other than Prince Edward County Administrator Mildred B. Hampton… perhaps an avid golfer on vacation… perhaps something else...
You be the judge.
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28 Comments:
At 9/30/2006 8:22 AM, Anonymous said…
sounds like virgil goode delievered a little pork to his district....now it appears it's starting to rott...
At 10/01/2006 9:38 AM, Anonymous said…
ahh, good to see your back Will, doing what you do best. It's been a while since you've done a PE piece, and after reading this post, it's obvious you put in a alot of research into this piece. Nice job, keep holding their feet to the fire, it sounds as if the local media need to start doing their job and stop painting "smiley faces" on every situation which involves the local elite.
At 10/01/2006 9:42 AM, Anonymous said…
Well this is real great. A lot of us are worrying about keeping what few fair paying jobs that remain and keeping up our house payments. It is nice to know that our county is looking out after a few people helping to create lawn mowing jobs so that we can keep the golf course looking nice for tourists and rich people who move into the big houses.
At 10/01/2006 7:41 PM, Anonymous said…
Not too sure how a golf course can be justified as essential public facilities or services, or even economic development. Maybe somebody is going to make some money eventually but that hardly qualifies it as economic development. What were our government officials thinking? I agree it is time to get some honest answers.
At 10/01/2006 9:12 PM, James Young said…
I wish I had paid closer attention to the discussion of this project at last year's H-S Alumni Council meeting. I have a distinct impression that it was discussed without mentioning any public involvement whatsoever.
At 10/02/2006 10:00 AM, Anonymous said…
Sure its economic development. We just may have to wait a while for all those cushy housekeeping and kitchen jobs.
At 10/02/2006 10:23 AM, Anonymous said…
How much did the town of Farmville have to invest to put the entrance road into the golf course. At first you might say nothing, but the workers sure couldn't build a road and work on town needs at the same time.
At 10/02/2006 11:36 AM, Anonymous said…
I actually heard that the impetus for this whole new golf course idea in Farmville was because some of the "Country Club Elite" were upset that the local Country Club was being infiltrated by some "unsavory" type people.
Therefore the only way to get rid of these unsavory characters was to start their very own elite golf course.
Seem like a pretty silly excuse to want to start a golf course if you ask me.
Sadly in Prince Edward and Farmville race relations (or lack of relations) is something that is usually still the driving force behind the decisions of some of our elected and "professional" public officials.
At 10/02/2006 2:58 PM, Will Vaught said…
Mr. Young… thanks for checking in with the Iconoclast.
Having not been there, I can’t guess exactly what might have been said at the H-S Alumni Council. But I have no reason to doubt your impression that there was no mention of public involvement whatsoever.
The Poplar Hill development is, according to public documents, made up of several separate but related entities. The CDA is one entity and responsible for the development of certain “centerpiece” facilities in support of the overall development concept. That is the entity that received the federal loan guarantee.
There are at least three other separate but related entities, all LLCs that are part of the same development concept, mostly involving various kinds of housing around the golf course and other facilities. One of those entities is the Hampden Sydney Poplar Hill LLC.
Confusion arises from the general use of the term “Poplar Hill” sometimes used as meaning only the CDA and sometimes used to refer to the overall Poplar Hill development including the CDA activities plus the LLCs and their housing activities.
This confusion is understandable because they are all related and part of an overall multi-element development and marketing plan. Thus, the CDA “centerpiece” activities are important to the planned LLC activities.
If the discussion you observed was limited strictly to the HSPH LLC, I can understand that that it may not have included mention of any public involvement.
But to be certain, there is public involvement in the overall development concept. That is why questions are now being asked.
Any further insights or observations you might be able to offer would be greatly appreciated.
Again, thanks for reading the Iconoclast.
At 10/02/2006 5:00 PM, Anonymous said…
Hey just wondering if you have a copy of that Farmville Herald article that cites Virgil helping secure that loan.
At 10/02/2006 9:49 PM, Anonymous said…
please, everyone in this area knows no Virgil, no loan. period. no loan gurantee, no golf course. Anyone who tells you differnet is bold face lier.
I don't need the Farmville Hearld to tell me that.
At 10/03/2006 2:30 PM, Will Vaught said…
Just a couple of quick comments here as it is a very busy day at work.
Yes, I have seen the news coverage concerning Congressman Goode's favorable intervention to smooth the way for the $8.8 million loan guarantee. There has been lots of local news coverage of this story... not always clear or easy to follow.
So far, the federal loan guarnatee seems to be the source of the biggest single chunk of money going into the project.
To be perfectly fair, there are other public officials besides Congressman Goode who put their weight behind this project.
News coverage also indicates Senator Allen supported the project as well.
And finally, lets not forget, there are quite a few local officials who were ardent champions of the project.
Be that as it may, right now the main issue is that significant public resources seem to have been directed by public policy makers to a project that may be benefiting private for-profit entities more than the public interest. Now we learn that the project may be in financial trouble even before the celebratory champagne starts to go flat.
So, now with a significant forclosure having been executed on certain key assets of the Poplar Hill CDA, why are the project's most ardent supporters and responsible public officials so shy about talking about the status of the project?
If the project is not performing as promised, the public has a right to know sooner rather than later.
At 10/03/2006 3:34 PM, Anonymous said…
Thank you Will for your explanation, you're doing some fine work. Now we need to get the editor of the Farmville Herald to do the same...
Still, the project is - in my opinion - the textbook definition of "pork barrell" politics.
Rumor around town is that most of the "smart money" stayed away from this project because they knew it was a half baked idea to begin with...
At 10/03/2006 9:45 PM, Anonymous said…
Buckie and the Herald are kind of tight. You don't really expect that the Herald is going to do any kind of serious "investigative journalism" on this matter do you?
At 10/04/2006 1:30 AM, Anonymous said…
Hey Will. Your stuff is cute but fact is, you are a total zero. Susie is still in charge and you haven't done squat. Ha ha. Why don;t you go and f... yourself or fly a kite.
At 10/04/2006 8:25 AM, Will Vaught said…
Good morning to you too.
At 10/04/2006 10:34 AM, Anonymous said…
Anon 1.30 am: Haha, this is exactly the reponse I figured you folks would go with! Halarious. I guess I would ask "where's the beef?" I would love to see a cotegorical refutation of this piece, but I know it ain't going to happen..face up, thes folks built a house of cards, and all it take is a savy blogger to blow it down...I hope the Wall family and Ken Woodley are proud of themselves!
Since you have no ammuntion to defend yourself or all of your cronies actions, you resort to the "Susie is still in charge and you haven't done squat" card...
You're just like the five bullheaded members of the BOS, you run things your way, and you despise any outside scutinty or input.
Or Maybe you would prefer to live in communist China where certain "unpleasantries" are filter by the Government? Wouldn't downtown Farmville look wonderful if it were littered with murals of King Buckie? Queen Susie?
Well guess what? Things are changing around these parts and the natives are getting restless. The current leadership in PE are on (and have been on) an unsubstainable course for many years now. What might have worked 10 to 20 years isn't going to fly today.
I know a small cabal of "good old boys and gals" have run this show for a long time, and yes I know very well they aren't going to go down without a fight.
But what do Will and other folks like him have on their side? THE FACTS MY FRIEND, AS UNPLEASANT AS THEY MAY BE!
So go ahead and enjoy yourself for the next 13 months. Take your cheap and cowardly shots..it's what you do best & at this point it is all you can do!
Because a major cleaning will take place in the Fall of 2007. Book it my amigo!
At 10/04/2006 4:55 PM, Anonymous said…
So, where can we pick up a copy of the report on the project? Do we go to the golf course for it or the county offices? Thanks.
At 10/05/2006 10:11 AM, Will Vaught said…
Excellent question reader. I would not expect that the golf course would be a great place to find documents. Maybe you could use the visit as an excuse to hit a few balls.
Seriously, I would anticipate that the county government offices would be where you might want to start. Just about all the CDA documents should be public domain. There should be audits, annual reports, and documents showing the status of the financing. It would be nice if there was a simple brief analysis of the financial status of the CDA... but don't get your hopes up for easy clear answers. Just go in and ask questions. You are a taxpayer, information on the CDA belongs to you.
Getting information on the other LLCs might be more difficult.
Good luck.
At 10/09/2006 4:41 PM, Anonymous said…
I can understand that Longwood and HSC might benefit from having a nice golf course to use. But I just wonder how we local residents benefit in the long run? Other than a few private investors and developers, who really benefits and how?
At 10/11/2006 12:26 AM, Anonymous said…
Hey Will! Just got the scoop on the Poplar Hill deal from tonights meeting of the Supervisors. Mostly Simpson sat there like a toad and mumbled a lot. It was just like he kept "pleading the fifth" to avoid self incrimination and telling everybody to talk to his lawyer. We were flabergasted. He offered not one single answer to one single question. Jones, in typical form, offered that the golf course was doing just fine not having a clue that the questions are financial and not about what the greens look like. Overall, the board showed a remarkable ignorance of what was going on and little curiosity to find out. You are the first to attempt to explain this mess in terms that are understandable. I will get you more details in the coming days. Hope you do a follow up post.
At 10/11/2006 10:57 AM, Will Vaught said…
Thanks for the up-date friend. Talk to the lawyer? Wow!!!
At 10/18/2006 10:08 AM, Anonymous said…
If you want to know what Simpson is doing hanging out in the courthouse all the time, you might get some insight in the recent report in the The Southside Messenger, a local paper that honestly reports the news on Prince Edward County government. The link is: http://www.southsidemessenger.com/articles/2006/10/13/news/o1.txt .
At 10/18/2006 10:28 AM, Anonymous said…
The above link is incomplete. Try:
http://www.southsidemessenger.com/
articles/2006/10/13/news/o1.txt
no spaces!
At 10/18/2006 10:52 PM, Anonymous said…
Is the previous contributor suggesting that the Herald might not be a reliable source of news?
At 10/23/2006 11:22 AM, Anonymous said…
Will, have you checked out the Herald recently? If not, you ought to look at Friday's paper. Very interesting change in the official story.
At 10/25/2006 4:25 PM, Will Vaught said…
I am with you. Stay tuned.
At 11/09/2006 10:11 PM, Anonymous said…
For all the public funds that have been put into this looser, you would think we would get a decent golf course out of it. I suppose you could say that there is a golf course, but I am not going to waste a lot of time or money there.
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