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Thursday, May 04, 2006

Printz and his Royal Court Rule Elkton's Election!


Last Saturday Jenny Jones, a reporter from the DNR in Harrisonburg, stated that the Iconoclast was a "blog about Elkton". Well, not really. It's a blog that once did a few pieces on Elkton, which (if you recall) turned into quite a fiasco! After I posted the blog entry which was somewhat critical of Mayor Printz's activities, I soon realized that the "Elkton beast" was way too much for me to understand. I freely admited that I essentially mimicked the postion - on Mayor Printz - that was reported in the DNR. Mistake? Maybe?

Well, if you picked up the DNR Wednesday morning you will see that Printz put a royal butt whippin (bad pun!) on his opponent, and received somthing like 75 % of the total vote.

Also, it's no secret that Printz is at odds with the current Town Manager, Dennis Donachy. You might recall that Donachy even jumped into the fray and posted several Anti Printz messages on this blog. Now please remember, anyone can post under a "name" in the comment section of a blog. But I do suspect that indeed Donachy did post these comments.

When the current Town Manager did this I immediatley thought to myself "can you say loose cannon"! I don't know him, but for god sake putting your name to a blog entry concerning your professional duties is, well, unprofessional in my opinion!

I don't have a problem with Mr. Donachy or the members of Elkton's Town Council who were ousted. Afterall I don't even live in Elkton! But I'm sure the reason behind Mr. Pritz's victory goes well beyond his dislike of the current Town Manager - who has maybe been with the Town for 2 years? It appears that Elkton had plenty of troubles before the arrival of Mr. Donachy. But as an outsider it appeared to me that Mr. Donachy made a fatal mistake by appearing to be willing to enter the realm of poltics, versus that of a professional manager. But I guess it could be argued that it's hard to divorce the two, especially in an environment as hostile as Elkton? I guess we'll never know...

Therfore, for better or worse the immediate future of the Town of Elkton lies with Mr. Printz and the new Town Council. It is clear that this is what the people of Elkton wanted, and I wish them the best of luck! One thing is for sure, there's no shortage of poltical excitement in Elkton! I can hardly wait for the next chapter to begin!

As always use the comment section, and If you have something you want to post please e-mail it to me (commonwealthiconoclast@yahoo.com) and I'll be happy to post it (I will site you, but I don't have to include your name if you wish), but as always keep your tone civil and your points well-reasoned.

680 Comments:

  • At 5/05/2006 8:35 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Things should get interesting once the new council takes their seats. Already Premier Printz has stated that they will once again change the town charter to give almighty powers to the mayor. Now that most all the seats on the council are his this will probably not be a problem. With all of his hand picked council members there will no longer be any checks and balances on the panel. What ever the premier wants he will get. Do we really need or want one person to have total control of the town. I would like to see how he plans on having 'no town run golf course' It is in the contract for at least seven years. Breaking the contract will probably bring dire consequences from Angler

     
  • At 5/05/2006 9:50 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I think there may be some checks and balances. Printz and Dearing have definitely had their share of disagreements in the past. Even though they say they're going to be working together for the same goals , I'm sure there will be plenty of conflict to keep everyone in their place.

     
  • At 5/05/2006 8:30 PM, Blogger jeff said…

    Wow. Just today, MR Donachy's house was put on the market to be sold. I guess he's heard the people speak and has decided to move to Elkton like he should have all along. Or is he...hmmm

     
  • At 5/05/2006 10:30 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    It is doubtful that Dennis will be moving to Elkton. When he first got hired he attempted to purchase a house in the Windsong Hills subdivision, only to run into problems at closing because the sellers could not come up with the money required to close. He probably sees the writing on the walls. Premier Printz has been trying to find a way to get rid of Dennis from the first day he arrived. Now with the majority of the council being his pals this probably will happen, maybe even before the contract expiration in September.

     
  • At 5/06/2006 9:00 AM, Anonymous Jason said…

    Mr. Corbo,

    Aren't you the self described "refugee" from New Jersey?

     
  • At 5/06/2006 9:03 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    kinda seems like mayor printz has 75% of elkton voters as his pals corbo-san.

     
  • At 5/06/2006 12:38 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    In response to Jason, I actually spent the last 22 years in the Republic of Texas, I am originally from NJ.

    There seems to be many folks who are ashamed to have their names associated with what they write. If you believe in what you post then why not say who you are. Stand by your convictions. I put no credence in anything written anonymously.

     
  • At 5/06/2006 12:56 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Donachy is a hack, we need a professional manager in Elkton, not another politician running the Town. But with Pritz running the show, isn't that exactly what we will have in Elkton?

     
  • At 5/06/2006 4:06 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    In response to:

    kinda seems like mayor printz has 75% of elkton voters as his pals corbo-san.

    What percentage of the 75% were actually voting against Randell Snow, not really for wayne printz. I wish there had been a third choice. Anonymous san.

     
  • At 5/06/2006 5:38 PM, Blogger jeff said…

    Well now that Mr D and his supporters are heading out, they could take their buddy Angler with them. It's bad enough that the town beavers were trapped and the wetlands are being dried up so R.S. doesn't have to drive to Lakewood to play golf, but do we really need another subdivision that nobody wants to live in. I cannot believe that there are buyers for all these homes in Elkton. I cannot believe that a company like Angler in a shifting real estate market is willing to take the chance. Maybe Mr D can find them anopther town.

     
  • At 5/06/2006 7:03 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Maybe since Mr. D is a real estate agent, he can now go to work for Angler? Afterall he's been selling real estate for a while now..

     
  • At 5/06/2006 8:54 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    You're right about town employees not getting involved in town politics. Ted Costin was the first town manager to make that mistake and now Dennis has, too.

    I wonder if also Marty Shifflet (sp?), who is the public work's director, will also have problems after all the ugly comments he's made in public about Mayor Printz. Especially after the electrical rate debacle.

    It was interesting that the day after the election the Valley Banner runs the story that, despite their earlier statements, the town did indeed have a problem with the electrical rates. Instead of a 2.5% increase , Marty mistakenly made it 25%. And how the council (that just lost) laughed at the poor citizens who complained about their skyrocketing electrical rates! I wonder if they will apologize to those citizens, and admit they were wrong, after all.

     
  • At 5/07/2006 2:09 PM, Anonymous anon-o-san said…

    honorable corbo-san,

    better choices would be good at all levels of government. point well taken. would you be in support of replacing the current members of the county board of supervisors?
    i understand your feelings toward anon posting, but unfortunately some of us cannot afford to have our words later distorted and used against us.
    you spoke well at the b'way meeting by the way. you and the other speakers made some good points, only to be completely ignored.
    this is time for change.

     
  • At 5/07/2006 3:10 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    Anon-O-San, you apparently have my brother and myself confused. He was at the meeting in Broadway. I was unable to attend. He lives 10 miles north of Harrisonburg. I am a resident of Elkton, that is why I have been active in the local scene and I ran for a seat on the town council. For a first timer and as the locals say, an outsider, I feel I made a pretty good showing.

     
  • At 5/07/2006 6:58 PM, Anonymous anon-o-san said…

    honorable corbo-san,

    please accept my humble apology for mistaking you with your brother. phillip is it?
    and thank you for seeking to involve yourself to effect positive change. few understand what that actually requires of an individual.
    there is a growing dynamic toward long term thinking and planning among the electorate and current "leaders" aren't getting it. as i said before, this is time for change.

     
  • At 5/08/2006 11:00 AM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    In response to Jeffs post:Well now that Mr D and his supporters are heading out, they could take their buddy Angler with them.

    You need to get your facts straight. The contract negotiations with Angler were underway prior to the arrival of Mr. Donachy. I believe wayne printz was the one who spearheaded getting Angler involved in both the Kite property and the Elkwood property. mr. printz was the lead negotiator prior to the arrival of Mr. Donachy. I believe he is the one who negotiated giving angler all of the free sewer/water hookups. mr printz, in one of his campaign documents stated "The proffers which were negotiated with Angler Development were mostly on a per unit basis". Under his negotiations there were no proffers at all. Which is better, on a per unit basis, or none?

     
  • At 5/08/2006 1:47 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    As far as the Angler contract goes, there's some question as to whether the town is bound by it. After all, Randall Snow, as vice-mayor and not under direction from either the mayor or the Council (in public vote and in public session) signed it. Did it all by his lonesome. Think that'll hold up as a binding document? I don't.

     
  • At 5/08/2006 3:44 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    In response to: At 1:47 PM, Anonymous said…

    Another one who needs to get their facts straight before posting. I have copies of the contracts:

    The contract for development of the Kite property with the golf course was signed on 2/28/2005 by Angler representive Steve Vento. It was then signed on 2/15/2005 by wayne printz for the Town of Elkton. Witnessed by notary public Denise R. Monger.

    The contract for the Elkwood project was signed by Angler representitive Mike Stumpo on 10/26/2005 and by Randell Snow for the Town of Elkton on 10/21/2005.

    The contracts are public record and may be obtained under the Freedom of Information Act.

     
  • At 5/08/2006 4:02 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Maybe Angler can now give Donachy exclusive rights to market the properties, wouldn't that be the ultimate in irony?

     
  • At 5/08/2006 8:18 PM, Blogger jeff said…

    Dear Mr. C.

    In no way did I mean to suggest that Mr. Donachy was responsible for the Angler group. I am well aware of the time frames regarding Angler and the many players responsible for the ultimate destruction of our land to make a few bucks. There are plenty of guilty parties from past council members to the present members. The town bought land to sell land and to make a buck. They can all deny till they turn blue in the face. Bottom line is the wetlands are dying because a handful of our selfish elected were in a position to better their golf swings and wetlands be damned. They had the town beavers trapped and now the wetlands are drying up. I wonder if the frogs will live long enough to be poisoned by the golf course residues. I'm curious. We should have a vote. I give four votes for the frogs and none for Angler from my household. So far that's 4-0. Next...

     
  • At 5/08/2006 8:31 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    In Response:
    At 8:18 PM, jeff said

    I agree with much of what you say about the deeds of past and present councils. The town had no business getting into the real estate business. As wayne printz said at my kitchen table, with Lee Dearing present, "We bought the Mary Elizabeth Kite property to be nice to Mrs. Kite because she has done so much for the town". I feel this started a lot of the problems that exist today. They now had the property with no plans on what to do with it. It was not in the town limits. Not a good business decision. I cannot point fingers at the responsible party/parties for getting Angler involved. I believe it was Angler's idea to do the golf course. It is the incentive being used to attract the class of people they want to purchase their homes. Rich retirees out of the DC area with lots of money and few if any kids. If you would like to take this off line, give me a call. I am in the book.

     
  • At 5/09/2006 7:47 PM, Blogger jeff said…

    Dear Mr. Corbo:

    While I appreciate your offer to take it off line, at this moment in time it might not be appropriate. I do find it hard to believe that any entity, town, corporation or individual, would spend so much money just to be nice to an individual excepting cases of charity. As you well know, charity does not return valuable consideration for a charitable contribution. I suspect that some of our elected trustees had motives beyond charity. I also don't believe that an Angler executive was just driving around the area and stumbled upon Elkton and decided "Rich folks from D.C. gotta see this." Angler will not build a single house. They will sell lots to builders and outside contractors to build and sell on their own. 1000 lots at $15,000 each will bring them a pretty profit without laying a brick. Imagine what 1300 at $30,000 will bring. Yes there will be some costs, but they'll do just fine. With a political atmosphere in constant turmoil and little supporting infrastructure I cannot believe that outsiders will flock to our little town. I cannot believe that Angler believes they will come and that is why they'll let others buy the lots and build themselves. The reality is that Angler is far wiser than Elkton. Please understand, I am content with our little town being like it is. I live in Elkton. I do not want to live in Harrisonburg.

     
  • At 5/09/2006 10:09 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    Jeff???, since you are unwilling to make your identity known, I feel this dialog has come to an end. As I said in a previous post I hold little credence in anonymous posts.

     
  • At 5/10/2006 9:50 AM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    Twas quite an interesting committee meeting last night. Citing things that are specified in the contract for the Kite property that remain uncompleted, and likely would not be completed by the deadline in the contract, Angler has requested a one year extension for the closing on the Kite property. This is going to put a very serious crimp in the Towns finances. The 4.7 million anticipated will not be forthcoming any time soon. Some of what was discussed at the meeting was not mentioned in the DNR article.

    One issue is the Towns purchase of the Taylor property. Apparently the sellers will not give the town an extension on the closing date. This means that the Town will have to come up with $150,000 to close by months end or the selling price for the property could likely double.

    Also, Angler does not feel comfortable with the incoming council, they all ran on a platform of "no town owned golf course". Even though there is a signed contract, many items remain to be done, the master plan, being one of them, along with final site plans, etc.. Delaying these processes by the new council will potentially cost Angler much additional money

    mr. printz sat there constantly saying that there needs to be further discussion because of outstanding issues. When asked what the issues were, he offered no answers. There is a signed contract, he signed it on 2/15/2005. If there were outstanding issues, he should have brought them out prior to signing the contract. After all, because he did not like the Elkwood contract, he refused to sign it.

    Lee Dearing, Mike O'Neill, and Margaretta Dean Isom were present at the meeting. When asked by the council if they would like to participate in the discussions last night the opted to leave the meeting instead of staying around to listen to what was presented. The did not have to take part in the discussion, just listen. I guess they do not have much interest in what is going on. At one point the mayor left the meeting to confer with them outside.

     
  • At 5/10/2006 8:39 PM, Blogger jeff said…

    Try this one out.

    1. The town buys the land that was going to be given to them anyway just so they could sell it to a developer.

    2. The town and developer fall out and the developer walks away.

    3. The town defaults on the purchase and Miss Kite gets it all back.

    Now here's the funny twist...

    4. Angler buys directly from Miss Kite, cuts out Elkton and develops the land without a golf course.

    Serves US right!

    I'll offer to buy the wetlands and a couple of acres to the north from Angler myself.

     
  • At 5/11/2006 6:51 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Jeff...

    So sad to hear a real estate agent trying to deep six this deal. Well, I guess if I had a golf course going in my back and front yard (literally), I would be upset too!!

     
  • At 5/11/2006 8:28 PM, Blogger jeff said…

    Dear Anonymous:

    There are several things that are sad about this whole thing. The town annexed me for selfish reasons without once contacting me to see if I wanted to be part of the town. Now that I am and have a vote, devil be damned. I don't want trash service, but I must pay. I get no additional services, but I pay town taxes. Just look at the trash pilng up on the towns newly annexed road. Look at where the town stops mowing. Try to get a police response when an accident occurs.

    Despite repeated attempts to contact "Big Daddy Angler" not one returned call, not one returned email. They ride by my home all day long and never stop by to say hi, here I am, what are your concerns? They apparantly would rather dance with Mr D. Good call!

    I still have not heard a word about the drying of the wetlands. Why is this being kept quiet?

    It is not just my back yard. It is the back and front yards of many people who were not asked, but on election day they answered anyway.

    I don't believe for a moment I am a threat to deep six this deal. But thanks for making me feel I could for just a brief moment.

     
  • At 5/11/2006 9:27 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Wet lands are tightly controlled by the EPA. If someone feels they are being dried up illegally then they should contact the EPA and state their case.

     
  • At 5/12/2006 11:32 AM, Blogger Will Vaught said…

    Let me see if I have this right. If the Town decides to back out to the Angler deal, then the Town will be (potentially) responsible for several million dollars because of prior agreements signed by the Town (Mr. Printz for instance)...but if the town goes forward with the deal, they are then (per the agreement) responsible for the managment and upkeep of a 18 hole golf course?

    So, i guess the logic is that even if the town has to pay dearly(to back out of an agreement ) this in the long run would be cheaper than the potential long term cost of running a golf course?

    If I have indeed interperted this correctly, then it sounds as if the leadership of the Town has royally put themselves in a loose - loose situation with Angler...

    I look forward to your comments..

     
  • At 5/12/2006 1:28 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    First of all, Per the contract, the golf course will be conveyed to the Elkton Park Authority. This is an entity seperate from the actual town of Elkton. Supposedly this Authority was created to isolate the town from liability attached to the golf course. I do not know how this will be interpreted in a court of law, but that is the situation. The Elkton Park Authority has its own board.

    The wording is quite extensive, but in a nutshell section 9. DEFAULT, paragraph B, (ii) leaving the Deposit in place, seek specific performance of this Agreement, provided, however, that if specific performance is not an available remedy, then in such event, and only in such event, the Deposit shall be returned to the Purchaser and Purchaser may seek damages from the Seller not to exceed Purchaser's actual costs and expenses incurred in relation to the Property and this agreement.

    This is an only part of paragraph B. Those interested in the entire contents may acquire a copy of the contract at Town Hall.

     
  • At 5/12/2006 9:20 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Don't you just love the lawyers, with all their fantastic verbage making one go crosseyed and wanting to think about more pleasant things.

    Wake up. If things go bad, you can't get blood out of a turnip.

    Somebody is going to loose. Usually it is those who don't have any idea of what the lawyers have written for the express intent to keep people confused.

     
  • At 5/12/2006 10:36 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I've recently stumbled onto this blog stream as well as the other concerning Elkton. Some very wonderful reading. One question sticks out to me. The Daily News Record states that Mike O'Neil made the following statement(paraphrasing):

    He would rather the town pay $3.0 million to back out than lose money on developement.

    I wonder where his head is? A debt of $3.0 on top of the $1.4 for water sewer project (Council Meeting Mintues June 2005 town website) thats $4.4 million dollars. Where is a hick town like Elkton going to get that kind of money?

    Why do people think the Town is going to lose money? Hasn't past councils set aside capital monies for infrastructure upgrades? Who is going to pay for the water/sewer lines within this new development? Did your Town Manager and others check into this before signing a contract? Aren't there building codes/standards to hold the developers feet to the fire?

    I look forward to your response.

     
  • At 5/12/2006 11:10 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    There are a lot more dollars at stake over and above the sewer and water upgrades. The original 2 million paid for the Kite property, the 1 million plus loan for Pentacostal Hill, the 1.7 million loan for the community center. The cost of the sewer plant upgrades as mandated by the State are yet to be determined.

    As far as who will pay for the sewer lines in the Kite project.
    Per the contract, Section 5, paragraph v. - Seller, at its sole cost, shall extend water and sewer main lines to the midpoint of the project to be constructed on the Property..... The seller being the Town of Elkton. I believe the developer is responsible for the sewer and water lines within the development.

     
  • At 5/13/2006 12:58 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

  • At 5/13/2006 4:34 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    A question.

    Why is it if angler decides not to sign the agreement at the end of the mmonth, (or year?) for any reason,why does town has have to pay for all of anglers expenses to date? Why would the town agree to something like that?

     
  • At 5/13/2006 10:41 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    When the party of the first part, Elkton, wants the party of the second part, Angler, to do a project the party of the second part wants to protect their investment. Angler, being an apparent expert negotiator, knows that when dealing with a governmental body, anything is liable to happen, and knows enough to cover it's proverbial behind. On the other hand, a town the size of Elkton probably does not have anyone really savy in these kind of deals. Even if one of them thinks he is a big time union negotiator.

    It is my opinion that Angler would probably have closed on the property if it were not for the fact that all four of the council elect had campaigned against the golf course. If Angler were to purchase the property, what guarantee would they have that the new council would not stalemate any and all future steps necessary to bring the project to fruition. These delaying tactics by the council would cost Angler many more dollars. As smart business people, Angler will not allow something like this to happen.

     
  • At 5/14/2006 1:18 PM, Blogger jeff said…

    Here are some thoughts, questions and even a few answers.

    1. Instead of a golf course can we please get more homes? Maybe a trailer part since affordable housing is so expensive. (See below).

    2. Would Elkton be better off having somebody better able reviewing it's real estate contracts? Yes, but nobody would vote for them.

    3. Can Angler & Elkton agree to have somebody besides the town run the golf course? Actually, Elkton doesn't want to take the chance it loses money and is equally concerned that an outside entity runs it and it is profitable. Funny little town!

    4. "IF", not when, the "Park Authority" runs short of money to run the course, who will make up the difference? No worries here. I have heard that the next big money maker is the use of town funds to purchase lotter tickets. This will give them something new to scratch.

    5. Is Mr. D. on is way out? and if so, what are the plans to replace him? I understand he's like Rembrandt with a paint brush. One stroke and we could look as pretty as say Shenandoah. Don't laugh, look at First Street. We should be ashamed of ourselves.

    6. Is there room on the golf course for a "miniature golf course" so more residents can enjoy the facility? If not, could we get one? Now this is a GOOD idea.

    7. What will happen to the displaced wildlife? or does anybody even care? We have been given dominion over them. So it really isn't important.

    8. The town is not in a real position to re-negotiate. If they fail to perform, they are in breach of contract, subject to the terms outlined in the contract. The town and their "on the ball" attorney should know this. I'm sure Angler does. When Printz stops partyig like it's 1999, maybe he'll get some real help.

    9. "Chump change?" give me a break. You gotta love the things people say. Let's see $3 million divided by the number of taxpayers. I see, where using federal government accounting methods now.

    10. Before the town really gets jiggy with it, maybe they should find another developer to put some pressure on Angler to get back to the table. Oh please let this happen. Can you just imagine the mess we'd have? OK I'll make an offer if Mr. Printz will call me. I'll offer $100 per acre for the wetlands and another $2000 per acre for 3 additional acres to provide a personal buffer. I'll apply for a conservation easement and protect it all forever. Now there's a deal. The town unloads a little useless land and I pay taxes.

    11. Why do we keep writing of probabilities, possibilities and all the other 'ties when it all comes down to who is going to sell the golf tees.

    Sell "ME" the land.

     
  • At 5/14/2006 1:51 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Jeff should come out of the closet and let it be known who he/she is. I guess Jeff has no conviction in what he writes. If his latest comments were not so pathetic they might be considered funny.

     
  • At 5/14/2006 2:15 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Come on now. It ain't the DaVinci code.

     
  • At 5/14/2006 10:16 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Jeff,

    I understand you are upset that you were annexed and that means you pay more ftaxes and you don't want your to be charged for trash pickup because you don't use it. However, you have a personal choice/decision... if you don't like it... move!!

    Now I know it sounds like hardly anyone is for the Angler Deal but lets look at your list one item at a time.

    1.Instead of a golf course... no way around it if the deal is completed there will be a golf course. You can say many things about Angler but there is one thing that needs to be said. They are men of their word or put another way they will meet their contractural obligation regardless of the other parties actions.

    2.Would Elkton be better off having somebody better able reviewing it's real estate contracts? No, the town should not invovle itself in real estate deals. Except the zoning and/or the inspection process.

    3.Can Angler & Elkton agree to have somebody besides the town run the golf course? . "IF", not when, the "Park Authority" runs short of money to run the course, who will make up the difference?
    - Another entity will be charged with running the golf course -- the Park Authority. It will be responsible for its own debt and can if they can find a better deal, sign a lease or even sell the golf course.

    5.Is Mr. D. on is way out? and if so, what are the plans to replace him...we could look as pretty as say Shenandoah.
    It appears you haven't read the local papers. The new council is going to have a superintendant that answers to the mayor, see the Valley Banner articles leading up to the election. Secondly, didn't you read about the state of Shenandoah's economic situation? True they did receive many grants...matching grants that have paralyzed their ability to upgrade or plan maintenance on ANY of their infrastructure for the next 2-3 years. Let me ask you a question...how much revenue does a pretty, empty store front produce. Let me help you A BIG FAT ZERO!!

    6.We had a miniature golf course in Elkton that no one supported.

    7.Displaced wildlife...Hey Jeff, ever heard of Shenandoah National Park? Those deer you see in the early morning hours don't live in those scrub cedars around your house. They come down from the mountains around you.

    8.The threat of re-negotiations will not work. Angler has a signed contract, doesn't that mean anything to the mayor?

    9."Chump Change" - Why do you think the total is only $3.0 million. Do your own research, the mathmatics BEGIN at $3.0 million and quickly escalate from there. We are well into the $10 million range for Elkton to get out of this.

    10."Before the town really gets jiggy with it"-the town can't get another developer. IF THIS DOESN'T WORK OUT YOU WILL GET YOUR WISH TO AGAIN LIVE IN THE COUNTY. The way they've been treated, Angler should stick to the mayor and his cronies if they sabotage this deal.

     
  • At 5/14/2006 11:26 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    Finally, someone with some common sense and savy responding to Jeff's rants. Mr. Anonymous forgot one more reason for Jeff's unhappiness with the Angler deal. It is rumored that he is a local real estate agent, so he is probably bitter that he may not profit from the deal if Angler handles the sales themselves.

    Our Mayor doesn't seem to think a signed contract matters. At last Tuesday's committee meeting he kept saying that there were issues with the contract that had to be talked about. This is the contract that he had a big hand in negotiating and the one he personally signed. If there were issues why did he not bring them out before he signed the document. When asked what some of the issues were he never offered a respones, just kept saying that there were issues.

    Tomorrow's council meeting should prove very interesting.

     
  • At 5/15/2006 8:00 PM, Blogger jeff said…

    Dear Anonymous & Mr. Corbo:

    I have often been told I'm not nearly as funny as I think I am. Perhaps it's true.

    If I could fold my arms, blink and make this whole Angler thing go away, I would.

    Wait...

    Nope, didn't work.

    In no apprant order, here are some replies.

    I wonder if some of you might feel the same if it were happening in your backyard. Please think before you answer.

    2. All the wildlife that visits me does not come out of the Park. You are welcome to visit me some evening and watch the cirlce of life play out in my back yard.

    3. I am a realtor and I do not care whether Angler sells on its own or retains the services of a Real Estate firm. All the agents in Elkton will benefit financially in the long run.

    4. A miniature golf course...Well truth be told, the indoor course we had was pretty cool. If a full course will succeed now, so will a miniature course. In fact, the miniature course could be open in the evenings too. Just a thought.

    5. A pretty, empty store front produces the same revenue as an ugly, empty store front.

    6. I am well aware that the cost to Elkton is far more than the $3 million. $10 million seems a bit steep, but you may be right. I was thinking more or less in the $6.5 to $7.0 range. Again, I could be wrong.

    Elkton has come too far to back out. We all know this.

    I also know, "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one. (Mr Spock "The Wrath of Khan).

    "But if you try sometimes, you'll get what you need." (Jagger/RIchards)

    There I go again, trying to be funny.

     
  • At 5/15/2006 8:44 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    The Mayor can't think for himself! Why do you think the "Haze" and her cronies were out in force pushing printz? Because she tells him what to do and what not to do, and he listens like a good little boy! Wake up! Printz isn't the mayor! Haze is! She's the nuts in his empty sack! The four elected off the council could not be influenced by the purple haze, so they are out! Great job haze! you have totally screwed the town by getting the four clowns elected. O'neil and Kite might have 1/4 a brain between them! Maybe! Past history speaks for Dearing, and well, the other one, probably can't do much damage. Oh well, the town will now get what it deserves! Get ready Virginia, the big top is set up over Elkton!!!

     
  • At 5/15/2006 9:13 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Jeff,
    I'm not sure I like your insinuations or accusations. Since when did the golf course become Snow's? Who has told you this? You really should be careful what you say, what if there are some in his family that take offence to what you say and aren't blessed with the same restraint senior has! Perhaps I should clue a few "key" people in on this blog and the comments within! I know your entitled to your opinion, but when you have an axe to grind with someone, which you obviously do, I just don't this is the forum to do it in! You don't seem like an idiot, fairly well spoken, Just be smarter man!

     
  • At 5/15/2006 10:40 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    There may be something to your comments about Ms Crider. When I first started writing letters to the editor about my concerns with the growth issues here in town I received a couple of calls from her commenting favorably on my letters. In an effort to try to get all sides of the issues I met with Mr. Donachy. The day after the meeting I was contacted by Mr. Printz and we met, he brought Mr. Dearing with him. One of my neighbors also attended the meeting. Seems like once it was apparant that I had a mind of my own the contact stopped. I also requested to meet with Steve Sigafoose to try to get another slant on the issues. That meeting never happened. I feel that once I announced that I was running for council the word went out. When I asked Ms. Crider why she had not contacted me about my running I was told by one of her ladies that those they were supporting were those they trusted.

    I wonder if Ms Crider should register the Neighborhood Watch as a Political Action Committee.

     
  • At 5/15/2006 10:41 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    To Anonymous 8:44 (a.k.a. Mrs. Donachy):

    So this is what you do after you were thrown out of tonight's council meeting, after being escorted out of chambers, by the town cop, for verbally abusing people?

    Jeez, no wonder the rest of the valley thinks we're all nuts....

     
  • At 5/16/2006 11:36 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    A few ideas on things that would really help our little town:

    1) A real community center. A place with an indoor basketball court, pool, game tables, etc. Where kids can go to play after school, get tutoring with thier home work and stay off the streets and out of trouble. Just because you add a pretty new roof and a few computers to an old factory it does not make a good community center.
    2) New business incentives. The town is doing nothing to attract new businesses. Offer a tax break for the first three years a new business is open. Make them want to come here, instead of Harrisonburg and McGaheysville. There is a wealth of outside money coming and going daily, from Massanutten, and we aren't tapping into it. Why?
    3) A real miniture golf course. The indoor one was cool and I enjoyed it, but we would turn a good profit from a real miniture golf course, the big cheesy type you play at the beach. The one at Massanutten makes a lot of money, and is visually unattractive and kind of boring to play. Again, let's bring the money here. And while we're at it, what about a large, permanent farris wheel (see the valley for $5.00, I'd go) and a few other attractions as such. A mini "Coney Island" thing could be a big money making hit here.
    4) A Farmer's Market. Why let the tourists go to Harrisonburg for their home made jelly and quilts, when we could do that here? Closer to where they are staying.
    5) A hotel. A nice hotel. For tourists. With free ice machines. Trust me, that will draw the Massanutten hotel visitors. Did you know Massanutten makes $30,000 a year on hotel ice machines alone? Again, why aren't they spending thier quarters here?
    6)More sidewalks. It is dangerous to walk some of these neighborhoods, for fear of being hit by the constant speeders. Side walks, street lamps, and a few well placed planters would make our little town look quite nice and safe. Cleaning the trash off the sides of the road would also make a nice asthetic.
    7) If you insist on development, some visual rules would go a long way. Am I the only one who has noticed how ugly housing is now adays? Quails Run and Windsong Hills are eyesores. Prefab housing might be one of the most visually offensive things that is taking over this area. The new Lakewood develpoment is hideous. Do we really want to look like that? Vinyl scars on once pretty land. Thin it out a little. When you can lean out your window and spit on your neighbors house, it's too close. Make a 1/2 acre minimum per house. A community with yards always looks nicer than a community that's squashed and poorly planned.
    This is just a few ideas. But as the development plans stand now, no one from DC will retire here. Look at the areas where the money from DC really goes. Little Washington, Rappohanock, Lexington, Charlottesville, and even Massanutten. The idea is to keep it quaint and pretty, and interesting. People from the rat race do not want to retire into an area that is becoming just as garish as the one they left, especially when it doesn't have much to offer.

     
  • At 5/16/2006 1:22 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    In response to the 11:36 AM post.

    1. I thougt what you wrote were part of the plans for the community center. There are plans, I have heard, to spend nearly seven (7) million dollars to accomplish much of what you mention. It will not happen a day.

    2. I agree with your asscessment. This is something that I talked about at the EPIC candidates forum. The EDRC was formed as a vehicle to try to bring new businesses to town. I believe the present council has decided to fund this organizations efforts. I also understand the new coucil is not in favor of this funding.

    3. I have heard that when the indoor minature golf course was here, very few locals supported it. I believe a ferris wheel may be nice, but I think a large liability. You would have to have a crew to constantly maintain the device and ensure it's continued safety.

    4. A farmers market is in the works. I believe at the April Council meeting Connie Weyrick came before the council to request the backing of the town in this endeavor. It will be a producers market. If you grow it, or make it, you may sell it at the market. Not a flea market or junk sale.

    5. A nice hotel is a good idea. Hopefully with an upscale restaurant that would also be a draw for folks from the mountain and other areas. A large plot of land downtown would be necessary. Maybe some of O'dell's property. A big improvement.

    6. I do take issue with your asscessment of Windsong Hills and Quail Run. Both areas consist of nice looking and well maintained homes. There are no pre-fab homes in Windsong Hills, all were stick built. Most in Woodbridge are also stick built, a few are modular homes. A far cry from single and double wides. Just take a look at some of the eysores in town, drive down Gibbons Ave., would you want something like the goat man's property, also check out the eyesore at the corner of E. Spring and Pine St. Much needs to be done to get some of the vacant derelict buildings either remodeled or torn down.

     
  • At 5/16/2006 2:19 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    "Golf courses are in fact another form of monoculture, where exotic soil and grass, chemical fertilizers, pesticides, fungicides and weedicides, as well as machinery, are all imported to substitute for natural ecosystems," the manifesto reads. "The environmental impacts include water depletion and toxic contamination of the soil, underground water, surface water and the air.

    "This in turn leads to health problems for local communities, populations downstream and even golfers, caddies and chemical sprayers in golf courses. The construction of golf courses in scenic natural sites, such as forest areas and coral islands, also results in the destruction of biodiversity."

    The Global Anti-Golf Movement calls for a moratorium on all golf-course development, an open environmental review/audit of existing courses and the conversion of existing courses into public parks.

    Furthermore, laws should be passed to prohibit the advertising and promotion of golf courses and golf tourism. And, finally, there should be "investigations into illegalities in the golf industry, including illegal occupation of public lands and encroachment into protected forests, diversion of water, violation and evasion of corporate regulations and corruption."
    http://www.antigolf.org/english.html

     
  • At 5/16/2006 3:57 PM, Blogger jeff said…

    Dear Anonymous:

    So many of you out there. Randell Snow is a fine gentleman, I have a healthy respect for him and he is one of the few elected officials who know my name and says hi each and every time our paths cross. Again, he is a fine gentleman and I respect his opinions and his right to express them. I also respect his politics. I just don't agree with them. If, however I have offended you Randell, I am deeply sorry. The next time we meet, I will extend this apology in person. This being said, I still don't want to see you or anybody else on the 16th hole.

    As for anonymous 11:36. It even seems like Vic and I can agree on a few of your thoughts. Forget the hotel and forget the amusement park. If the big boys feels it's right, they'll come.

    Yes, yes, yes. A tax break. Imagine a business friendly town center. I still believe in the trickle down effect We could use a little parking help though.

    As for Massanutten. I remember when the local folks wanted nothing to do with the rich snobs in Massanutten. The tourists staying in Massanutten are looking to spend their money. Let's help them. We don't need a hotel. If a tourist is coming to our area, they are going to stay where the activities are or camp. We want them to enjoy their activities and camping and then come shop in ELkton.

    One last one...Why did Mrs. D. get tossed?

     
  • At 5/16/2006 4:17 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    Mrs. Donachy was escorted out of the meeting by request of mayor printz. She was making comments that the mayor deemed offensive, eventhough others in the rear of the chamber were also commenting on what was being said.

     
  • At 5/16/2006 5:37 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Lets everyone take a minute and catch our collective breath. There are several things that need to be said:

    1.Randell Snow said he would keep the town out of the news paper. Did anyone read today's paper? There you are again. If you don't get your name out of the paper you'll never get any businesses. To the Council-elect...Listen to me...you don't have all the answers. You don't even know the real problem...why?...because you are part of the problem. You have shown no regard for the reputation of your small town. None of you even had the fortitude or professionalism to obtain a copy of the contract and read it before you began to shoot it down.

    2.The mayor doesn't seem to understand that the town needs to stop asking what businesses can do for the town and figure out what the town can do for businesses. You're right Jeff there need to be incentives for startup businesses but no one seems to want to pursue it.

    3.Several times in the DNR, the mayor and sitting council have said that they shouldn't be in the real estate business and that they did the best they could with what they had...I don't agree. They did leave a lot on the table during negotiations but there is one thing I cannot understand. When the mayor negotiated the contract he was the one that agreed to prepaid water taps. Now however, he is distancing himself from this error. Just accept responsibility and go on.

    3.Angler has a signed contract; A SIGNED CONTRACT, doesn't that mean anything to anyone in your Town? I own my own business and if the Town renigs on this contract, why would any business will want to come there. They know they'll never be able to fully trust the Town. Now, McGaheysville is minutes away from Massanutten, ome on over to a real small town.

     
  • At 5/16/2006 7:35 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    The town is full of looney tunes. Each has their own agenda. Yes to a golf course because my pension will cover the greens fees. No to the golf course cause we like being a little hick town.

    Why should Elkton honor the contract. That would be the honorable thing to do.

    Betweeen money skimming employees, wishy wahsy mayors and nutcase wives, it's a wonder anybody lives in this looney tune town.

    We need a trailer park.

     
  • At 5/16/2006 8:07 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Ok, I'm a little confused. Why was Mrs Donachy speaking or commenting at the meeting? Did she just move to Elkton? FOrtunately we won;t have to listen much longer.

     
  • At 5/16/2006 8:23 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    To 8:07

    THANK GOD

     
  • At 5/16/2006 8:41 PM, Blogger Will Vaught said…

    Be sure to read the new post on Elkton/Mayor Printz/Mr. Donachy which was recently submitted by D.F.E.

     
  • At 5/24/2006 10:26 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I am one of the Haze Crider "CRONIES". To the disgusting jerk who wrote the asinine blog refering to Haze as being the "de facto" Mayor. Ever hear of SLANDER? Can you pronouce "ATTORNEY, SUBPOENA< LAWSUIT"? Too bad you disparaged so many of us "Haze cronies, the Mayor and the newly elected council members. And Carbo, you said we helped elect people we trusted. Think about it - they got elected didn't they?

     
  • At 5/25/2006 2:48 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Ref: To the Hazel Cronie

    I feel that it is pathetic that Ms Crider actually considers her monthly meetings as a credible "Neighborhood Watch." Her meetings are nothing more than a gathering of citizens who are there to promote their own political views. It has nothing to do with having a better and safer Elkton, just someone on a power trip. Look at the way the neighborhood watch meetings were handled when David Conley was fired. Never in the course of thoses meetings was information offered to better educate the citizens of Elkton in regards to crime prevention. Just an open forum for David to vent his frustrations of once again being fired from another department and a way to publically bash Elkton Police Chief Richard Pullen and the other members of the Elkton Police Dept.

    I know most people are going to mention the good the neighborhood watch has done, as in the fund raising for the Elkton K-9 unit. However is it ever mentioned that the group threatened to pull their financial support for the program when it was announced that Officer Morris would be taking the K-9 position instead of Conley? That is not a slanderous statement, that is a proven fact and if someone would take the time to research the subject they would see the truth. The Elkton Neighborhood Watch is nothing more than a rogue political group, looking out for their own personal interests and not the bests interests of the town. A HUGH THREE RING CIRCUS WITH MS CRIDER AS THE RINGMASTER.

     
  • At 5/25/2006 11:39 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Ah,frustrated are we? Jealous that people are part of the Neighborhood Watch brigade because they want the best for the Town of Elkton and it's citizens? Your silly diatribe regarding David Conley and Officer Morris shows you have no idea of why the Neighborhood Watch was formed; why Concerned Elkton citizens take the time to go to the meetings; and how the Neighborhood Watch has been instrumental in making Elkton a safer and friendlier town in which to live. Your definition of "slander" is way off base. I suggest you attend one of these meetings if you have so much to say with your derogatory comments regarding your perception of the work being done by this group. Maybe then you will understand that we are protecting your rights, that is if you live in Elkton. As to Haze Crider being a "Circus Ringmaster", if you have so much to say in critizing her diligence in making a better place to live, why do you envy the work she is doing with the aid of her so called "cronies?" Look to your own self and ask yourself why you need to make a mockery of the good that is being done here in Elkton for your benefit.

     
  • At 5/25/2006 5:58 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    The best interests of the citizens of the town of Elkton????? Concerned about their safety???? Making Elkton a better and safer place???? Please give me an example of when Ms. Crider has achieved one of these objectives. Hold on though!!! The example must not be politically motivated or result in personal gain for anyone associated with the Neighborhood Watch or with Mayor Printz. I will be waiting.....

     
  • At 5/25/2006 6:27 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Again we get the jerk with the inflated ego who can't acknowledge that he knows so much about Haze Crider and her "cronies" that he can't see the forest for the trees. In his own blog he cites the Neighborhood Watch providing the K-9 dog for Elkton. That deed alone assures one of the safety provisions for the Town. As for the Neighborhood Watch being a political entity, did your candidate lose because you think it was the fault of the NW? The Campaign Committee was an entirely separate group of concerned citizens who were sick and tired of Snow jobs, and not being listened to regarding numerous issues - chief among them being the enormous utility bills foisted on our Elkton citizens. Did you take time to study the issues concerning the residents of the Town before the election? If not, don't complain about supposed political groups and their agenda where they don't exist. Thank the good Lord for the Neighborhood Watch. Like Bill O'Reilly, they are looking out for you, even though you think it is your right to denigrate them. Asias la vida!

     
  • At 5/25/2006 8:18 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    To DFE: I salute you and your wonderfully concise, clear and beautifully written blog regarding our Mayor Printz, Lucky Sigafoose, and the character of the Town of Elkton. In reading your blog, I recognized what a admirable, civilized, compassionate individual you are. What a wonderful breath of fresh air you are. I never thougt I would read a blog that did not denigrate nor demean another human being no matter who they are, nor what they have done in tearing our Town apart. You make me proud of our little Town and the peole who are involved in making our Town a better place in which to live. I hope other bloggers will take note of your decency in not taking "pot shots" at our Mayor and the great people who reside here. God bless you, and please continue to pen your intellectual missives here. We eagarly look forward to them.

     
  • At 5/25/2006 10:33 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Well anonymous you proved my point exactly. You were not able to provide one instance of the Neighborhood Watch doing a selfless act to promote the safety and wellbeing of the town. As for the K-9 unit fundraising, that was a ploy to give extra attention to the Neighborhood Watch's posterchild and if Printz had his way, the new Chief of Police David Conley. Once Conley was fired, the Neighborhood Watch threatened to pull funding from the project however the dog had already been purchased and it would have been impossible to refund the money to every contributor. So Haze had to bite the bullet and watch her goldenboy lose his job. After his firing Mr Conley was appointed some BS title of Neighborhood Watch expert guest speaker which gave him the open public forum to publically bash Chief Pullen. If the NW cared so deeply about the best interests of the town then why did they go on a public fishing expedition to try to cost Chief Pullen his job? Wouldn't it have made more sense to work WITH the Police Dept instead of AGAINST them???

    I do agree with your comparison to Bill O'Reilly though. Both O'Reilly and the NW members are so fixed on pushing their own agenda, they resort to public bashing and mud throwing against anyone that doesn't totally agree with their views. As for me being a Randall Snow supporter, you label me incorrectly. I don't believe in many of Mr. Snow's policies and viewpoints however I do consider him the lesser of 2 evils when it came to this past Mayor's election.

    In closing I would like to express my sympathy to the citizens of Elkton. It is issues just like this that were the main factors that made me sell my home for way under the fair market value in order to leave the Soap Opera that is called the Town of Elkton, population 1 less sane person. I bid you good day sir.

     
  • At 5/25/2006 10:37 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Before I do retire for the evening I would like to take the opportunity to thank Elkton Police Chief Richard Pullen for his service during the past few years. I had the honor to get very close to Chief Pullen in the past and although we have drifted away from contact I know that he always did what he thought was in the towns best interest. Good luck in all your future endeavors Chief Pullen. The town is losing a great civil servant.

     
  • At 5/25/2006 10:58 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    I just love the total devotion some folks here in town have for Mr. Printz. Once again he attempts to be king of the hill by sending Mr. Donachy a letter (DNR 05/24/2006) trying to prevent him from doing his job, Mr. Donachy is still the town manager reporting to the current council, until the end of June.

    I have never seen such arrogance. For him to think he is God Almighty here in town. Not only is it arrogant, I believe it is also highly unethical.

    If you cannot stand on your own merits, trash everyone else and baffle the voters with BS.

     
  • At 5/26/2006 8:33 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I can assure you Vic, this is not the first letter that was circulated to town employees ordering them not to speak to the press; then threatening them with suspension or termination if they violate the order. Kinda funny that Mr. Printz doesn't want anyone else to speak to the press however if there is an issue he feels needs to be addressed, he is the first one giving a statement to Ms. Jones. I guess the town of Elkton, under the Printz administration, has turned into a Communist occupation. The citizens however have noone else to blame for the train wreck than themselves though. 75% of you idiots actually voted him into office!!!!!!

     
  • At 5/26/2006 10:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Mr. Carbo, why do you persist in thrashing the Mayor? I used to think a lot of you, and thought you were a good candidate for councilman, but your diatribes on this blog have given me a different perspective. Stop moaning over a "done deal" and be a gracious loser. I think you are a better person than you portray yourself to be in these blogs. Read DFE's blog and you will realize you are denigrating a Mayor who is a truly decent person. I suggest you get to know him and stop this silly fighting. You may have great ideas, but you will not solve anything by trying to impose them by being beligerant and arrogant. You are better person than that, Vic. I hope to see that side of you again.

     
  • At 5/26/2006 10:14 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Well, here is one of the so called "75% idiots" who cast their votes for the Mayor and new Council persons. You can bitch all you want about the outcome of the election, but stop and accept the fact that the results of the vote cannot be changed. Why don't you agree to accept these results and work with the Mayor and the newly elected council people? I pray that God takes the hatred out of your hearts and makes you a happier, decent person who is a credit to the Town and the people who live here. We want the best for Elkton and you. Why can't we all work together to achieve that!
    You know who you are, and so do we. Peace!

     
  • At 5/26/2006 10:16 AM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    I have been spending time the last week or so going to Town Hall and reading the minutes of all of the Council meetings since 2002. It is really interesting reading but the words in the minutes do not do justice to the real action at the council table. I fear Mr. Cary's writings cannot do justice to real goings on. You really have to sit and watch the video tapes from the actual meetings.

    From the March 18th 2002 regular council meeting when Mr. Printz was a councilman, concerning annexation: He does not agree with the County's position but will not negotiate in the newspaper or on TV. This is exactly what he has been doing. Just from the papers I have saved:
    March 31st, April 7th, Nov 10th, Nov 17th, and Dec 1st of 2005, and then again on May 25th of 2006, he has taken to the newspaper with his views of what is wrong with the current council and what he will do to fix it.

    At that same meeting he stated: "Being Mayor of Elkton is a privilege and an honor, and, as Mayor he should depict the viewpoints of the Council. The chief spokesman should be careful what he says". In the time I have been attending council meetings, it has been a rare occasion when Mr. Printz "depicts the viewpoint of the Council". He really should heed his own words as what he says can and will come back to bite him you know where.

     
  • At 5/26/2006 10:27 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    So one "sane" person is leaving Elkton. Sorry you didn't like our great Town and the politics and good people who live here. If you had put more energy into praising the good things about Elkton, instead of demeaning and criticizing the Town, your stay here would have been more pleasureable. I pray you get the hatred out of your heart and you will find peace wherever you chose to live. Just look for the good things about your new residence, and you will be a much happier person. Peace

     
  • At 5/26/2006 10:49 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    To Mr. Carbo: Stop it! Why do you persist in making a "jackass" of yourself with your comments and criticism of the Mayor of Elkton. Sour grapes! Those of us who have lived here all our lives know that Mayor Printz is one of the greatest, most decent Mayors we have ever had. He listens to the people and has done more for this Town than you will ever know. You are so filled with your own antagonism toward the Mayor, you can't see that you are doing more to demean yourself and the citizens of the town of Elkton. Get over yourself. Oh yes, the current charter is still in effect and it states the Mayor is the head of the Polce Department and the hiring and firing of Town employees. Thus, Mr. Donachy is an employee of the Town and not the spokesperson. That he would give a personal letter from the Mayor to an employee, is unethical and self-serving. The current Town Council tried desparately to change the Charter, to give the powers of the Mayor over to the Town Manager. Didn't work, thank God. Donachy does not, nor should he have the powers of the Mayor. If you agree with a person breaking the Virginia Code of Law by making themselves more imnportant than the Mayor, you are being implicit in the law breaking and I am sure that is not your intent. Learn some humility, Vic, because people who have lived all their lives here, resent an outsider castigating their Mayor and the folks who liver here.

     
  • At 5/26/2006 11:17 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Mr. Carbo, why do you hate this Town so much and have so much to say regarding our Town and the Officials who serve our Town. Talk about big town "know it alls" who come here and think they know more about the running of the town and the people who have lived here all their lives, than they do. It just shows that you do not have the interests of the residents at heart. Stop being a sterotypical big city know-it-all, and if you don't like our town, our officials, and are not happy here, you don't have to stay. This was, and will again be a wonderful peaceful place to live if only people who think they are so self-important and think they know what is best for us, will leave us to our once peaceful existence. Stop the negativity. We don't need you to point out the past. We are looking for the future, and so should you if you continue to live here. God bless our Town and the people who live here.

     
  • At 5/26/2006 11:27 AM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    To the 10:49 anonymous poster.

    If you are so sure of your total admiration for Mr. Printz why do you hide behind the anonymous banner. Come out and say who you are, or are you so afraid that you have to hide behind a mask. Come out and be a man or woman, stand behind your principals.

    As long as what I write is factual I cannot see why you are so afraid of what I write. I do not like Mr. Printz's political principals, one example: In the April 27th issue of The Valley Banner there appears politcal ads from Mr. Dearing, Mr. Workman, Mr. Snow, myself, and Mr. Printz. All of the ads, but one, stated each person's platform. Mr. Printz's ad immediately started off with a diatribe against Mr. Snow. Not one word on his platform.

    He did the same thing the night of the EPIC political forum. I do not recall him answering any of the questions posed. Each time he was called upon to answer a question he launched into a political speach and additional diatribe against Mr. Snow. A number of times he had to be stopped from speaking by the moderator.

    At the meeting where Angler requested a delay in the closing of the Kite property, he kept saying there were issues that had to be discussed. He was asked a number of times what some of these issues were. He never offered a response. He just kept saying the same thing, issues exist that must be discussed. He very rarely will answer a question with a direct response.

    Did you happen to notice in Mr. Printz's letter in the May 25th issue of The Valley Banner there were 14 (I) s. I did not realize that Elkton contained the letter I.

    Again, if you cannot stand on your platform, baffle the public with BS.

     
  • At 5/26/2006 12:17 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Mr.Carbo, here you go again. Can't you write a missive without revealing your hatred toward the Mayor? Why, oh wny, do you continue to show your asinine abhorance of anything that has to do with the Mayor and his politics. Becaue you don't agree with his politics, are yours more important than his? Such arrogance! Keep making an "ass" of yourself because you are showing what a mean spirited little jerk you are. No wonder you lost. The name of the game is "Humility" which you obviously seem to lack. We accepted and respected you when you were running for councilmen. We would like to do that again, but under the circumstances, what choice do we have. Those of us who supported you are so disappointed in your awful, demeaning diatribes, especially since you haven't lived here long enough to make hurtful assumptions of our Town, our Mayor and our councilmen. I'll say it again, stop being a sore loser. Your anger is coloring your perception of what is good about the Mayor and this Town.

     
  • At 5/26/2006 12:39 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    This is my last comment on anything you Anonymous posters have to say. Come out and be known.

    I have my reasons for my views of Mr. Printz, but this is not the place to air them at this time. I have not said anything against the Town, or the sitting Council. I have not called any one derogitory names as you seem to be prone to. I have kept my comments mostly factual. If you bothered to look into things your opinion of some may change.

    My politics are not more important than those of Mr. Printz. My main concern is they way he seems to implement his. Please re-read my comments above about his campaign comments. No other candidate resorted to this type of campaign. I am not sour grapes, much of my views were formulated prior to the outcome of the election. That is one of the reasons I decided to make a bid for the Council

    Again, use some intestinal fortitude and come out of the closet instead of tearing someone down and calling them names from behind your mask

     
  • At 5/26/2006 1:16 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Mr. Carbo, you are typical of those people who only "talk" and do not "listen" You are not worth corresponding with, because you just do not see what is before your eyes. You just keep on harping on the same old thing with your animosity toward our Mayor. The blogger who has been pointing out your stupid diatribes, is right on target. Please just go away - we don't intend to stoop to your level. You are not worth it. Yes, we do want to remain anonymous because confronting people like you in person would be a study in frustration. You wouldn't listen anyway, since you have such a closed mind. Of course you will answer this with another of your usual opinions, so save it for those who are as miserable as you. BYE!!!

     
  • At 5/26/2006 6:29 PM, Blogger jeff said…

    Good to see everybody back at it. Unfortunate to see it has become more personal than need be. Mr. Corbo. I wish you the very best of luck with your proposed web site. I began one a few years ago and it putters along. Glad to talk about ideas, just ask.

    As for all you anonymous writers. I understand completely why you write this way. Apparantly some people out there think they know who I am and have now confronted me regarding the things I have written. Sometimes Vic, it is best to hide behind a mask. It is an opportunity for some to offer opinions, insight and provoking thought without the worries of being singled out. It is from these open and un-inhibited words that we can see deeper into ourselves. There are many great thinkers who preferred the shadows over the limelight. It is from these sometimes off the wall comments that greater ideas might emerge. With each response another thought is generated. From all these generated responses there will be some bad and there will be some good. Fact becomes fiction when improperly spun and fiction becomes fact in the same manner.

    I am not a native. I have been in the Valley since 1978. I moved to Elkton in 1988 and have learned a wonderful life lesson.

    There is no place like Elkton. In my short time here we have had Charlie, Lee and Wayne. All three are characters. We have had Randell, Mike, Marsha. Lucky and so many others who are also characters. This entire town has character.

    This past election was a final grasp by the people to maintain a way of life. Too little too late I'm afraid, but we spoke. I welcome the incoming council with open arms. They are good people. The departing council are very good people too.

    There is no place like Elkton and I am sorry if I have offended anybody. I am not sorry for saying, writing or doing things I feel may preserve our way of life.

    Sometimes you want to go, where everybody knows your name. And they're always glad you came.

    The quality of a society is founded on its ability to forgive.

    For those incapable of forgiveness, I forgive you.

     
  • At 5/26/2006 9:59 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    My offer is still open to Jeff and anyone else who would like to sit and discuss things face to face over a cup of coffee or whatever. Only speaking one on one can true understanding evolve on all sides. I am open to any and all comers. As I have said, I am in the book.

     
  • At 5/27/2006 9:21 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Vic you are a wise and highly educated gentleman. How I wish you had been in power while I was still involved with the town of Elkton. Things would have ended up alot differently.....

     
  • At 6/01/2006 12:41 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Dear Mr. Corbo and the Anonymous...

    I chuckle when I read this blog, as I believe you are all missing a valuable point that you all seem to really want. Everyone who writes here says they want a better town. So here is an idea.

    Instead of spending what looks to add up to much time writing in blogs, researching council minutes, collecting newpapers, writing editorials, etc, maybe you should ALL start volunteering and actually doing some physical work to improve the town.
    How about a little volunteer group whom helps pick up the trash, cut the grass, and clean up our little town? Plant some flowers, plant a tree, paint a dilapidated building, help our less fortunate residents and donate your time. You all seem to have plenty of it.
    I think you will find a spiritual and mental cleansing in actually doing good and productive work that really improves our town.
    And if all of the people who spend so much time here bashing each other participated, you'de might find a good exchange of ideas and a little light hearted bantering while participating in a little physical labor goes a lot further towards real solutions than this blog writing ever will.

    Just a consideration for those who have so much time and energy, but don't seem to really have any direction..

     
  • At 6/02/2006 8:09 PM, Blogger Will Vaught said…

    test, test...seems to be working fine...

     
  • At 6/05/2006 4:30 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    While we all wish our town could return to its original beauty, how can it when we have interlopers who seem to think they have the right to tear it to pieces little by little with their nasty comments? If you don't like our lovely town, we will be so happy to escort you to another destination. The character of the town and its residents was perfectly serene and peaceful before you got here, Numerous visitors to our town remarked how they enjoyed spending time here, but now, with all the negativity surrounding our town, they would rather spend their vacations elsewhere. We are praying for our re-elected Mayor and our new councilmen who, we know, will have a difficult time correcting all the headaches and heartaches which the old regime perpetrated on our town. Those of you who will try to make things difficult for the the Mayor and the Council will continue their inane diatribes, but guess what? The recent election should have given them a clue that the people of Elkton are so much more intelligent than they; that those who would try to cause them grief and dissention are only proving how cynical they are. Repeat - we see right through you and your hateful, hurtful character. So you simple minded jerks who don't like it here, just go way and leave us all in peace. We surely won't miss you.

     
  • At 6/05/2006 5:27 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    How soon people forget. All you have to do is go back and read back issues of the local newspapers and Town council minutes to know that the image of Elkton has been rather sullied long before I, or any other new resident, moved into, or were forcibly annexed into Town.

    Some of the recently elected and re-elected are the same people who created some of the problems the Town is facing today.

    The actions of the council elect are already causing problems and they had not even taken office as yet. Because of their stand on the Dominion Ridge project no money is forthcoming to pay the debt owed. Even the County school board is getting involved. No Dominion Ridge deal, no land for a new school. I wonder what might come next.

    I do not think I am being hurtful. I have mostly stated fact. If others opened their eyes and took a more active role in Town affairs maybe things would improve for all concerned.

     
  • At 6/07/2006 11:14 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Mr. Printz asked me recently if I was reading past council minutes to try to get something on him. I do not think that any research is necessary. He seems to have the inane ability to cause his own problems.

     
  • At 6/07/2006 12:06 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    Something happened to my last post so here it is in it's entirty.

    Wow, Looks like Mr. Printz is attempting to use his position as Mayor to circumvent legal legislation. In two letters to the Governor’s office, on Town letterhead, he attempted to stop the Governor from signing into law the new Town charter and the ability of the Town to form an electrical authority.

    In a third letter he brazenly tells the CPA firm that if it starts or finishs the audit before July 1, they will not get paid. He is the one who first requested the audit. Now under the pretense of not wanting to spend Town money he does not want the audit. Could he be concerned what might come out of the audit?

    Not only is the sending of those letters brazen and arrogant, it also may be illegal. This smacks as misuse of office under state code 24.2-233. This determination awaits the decision of the Commonwealth's Attorney.

    Mr. Printz asked me recently if I was reading past council minutes to try to get something on him. I do not think any research is necessary. He seems to have the inane ability to cause his own problems.

     
  • At 6/08/2006 8:40 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Good Bye Angler!

     
  • At 6/09/2006 1:38 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Good bye Angler. I think not. I have a feeling that if things do not progress as they should, they will tie that property up in litigation for a long time to come. Not even JL Hopkins will be able to do anything with it.

     
  • At 6/10/2006 6:32 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    "There are none so blind as those that will not see." You cannot make stubborn, obnoxious people realize their what they are doing in pushing their dislike of the Mayor is intolerance of the worst kind. Digging into the past minutes and tapes of our Town is only being done for their own aggrandizment. But to take those same minutes and tapes to criticize what transpired before, is totally despicable, since all that past history cannot be changed. It is what it is! No amount of vituprative vitriol is going to make one bit of difference. Again, where does your intolerence cease, and our tolerance of your self-serving rantings begin. We, who have lived here all our lives, have raised and educated our children and grandchildren here, and are dedicated and committed to our churches and our community, do not appreciate outsiders coming into our Town who would rather tear down our good people and those who are working for the betterment of all who live here. Don't like us, our politics, our town officials? The alternative is to just go away quietly. We won't miss you.

     
  • At 6/10/2006 10:53 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    Reviewing past minutes and tapes can really give one a very good picture of how some have performed in the past and will probably perform in the future. It is rare that a leapord will change it's spots.

    In one of the articles in the Daily News Record about the legislation to give the town the ability to create an electrical authority, Mr. Printz stated, and I quote: "I was not educated or involved in the process" of creating an electrical authority, "It was done behind my back. I really don't know what it is".

    At the Sept 13, 2005 Town of Elkton committee meeting, during a discussion about the possibility of an electrical authority, Mr. Miller the attorney was explaining how the authority might work. Mr. Printz suggested some type of partnership with Massanutten.

    Upon reviewing the actual video tape of that meeting, Mr. Printz can be seen and heard saying, “Dennis and I talked about this today. We might want to look at this and expand it just a hair. It would be my recommendation for us to think about meeting with the powers that be in Massanutten”.

    Mr. Printz went on to relate a conversation he had with some folks from Massanutten over breakfast. To paraphrase Mr. Printz. It might be worth meeting with them, there are big bucks there.

    Mr. Printz also said that he and the new council need to examine the new charter before it takes effect. The final draft of the new charter was made available for all to review, before it was sent to Richmond, what took so long for him to want to review it.

    Were Mr. Printz's statements in the DNR article made due to poor memory?

    Not to educate yourself into what has and is going on around you can lead to being so blind you cannot see.

     
  • At 6/16/2006 2:43 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    What a venomous, vile person VC is. Studying his answers to other bloggers articles, shows he has no clue as to how utterly asinine and ridiculous he is. He doesn't ever answer anybody's replies; he just continues to use the same blather to criticize the Mayor, and in turn, to vent all his frustrations on the good people of Elkton. Nothing seems to get through to this guy's ego. So VC, look in the mirror and see what a silly little twerp you are with your ridiculous rantings. Other bloggers have tried to be more gracious, but you continue to attack the Mayor who is a better person than you will ever be - so we will say it again -JUST GO AWAY. We don't need people here who stir up hatred and envy and make our Town citizens appear to be stupid because they back our Mayor. You ever make mistakes VC? How about we pulicize yours? Oh, that's right -you never made any!!! Really???

     
  • At 6/16/2006 4:48 PM, Anonymous vic corbo said…

    I guess when you cannot write anything intellegent you must stoop to name calling and character assination. You do not even have the fortitude to look me in the face when you call me names. If you look back at all of my posts you can plainly see that I have not stooped to your lowly way of writing. Anything and everything I have written has been the truth. Because I do like the town and most all of the citizens I have met I will attempt to bring to light any and all that I feel sheds a bad light on the town. If the truth hurts so be it.

     
  • At 6/16/2006 9:58 PM, Blogger jeff said…

    Vic, Vic, Vic.

    You just don't seem to get it. You may not like Wayne personally, you may think he stretches the truth from time to time, I might even agree that what you write "MAY" have some truth's.

    What you fail to get is "We the People" don't care that from time to time there are some discrepancies with what might be said on Monday and what might be said on Tuesday.

    I don't mean to suggest that Wayne is Ronald Reagan, but a landslide is a landslide.

    Give it up. Just give it up. I bumped into his honor the other day outside a local business and listened as he spoke to somebody on his cell phone. I heard a real person with real words speaking his mind. He said something about working from 4:00 to 12:00. That's right working. I guess he meant he had a job. The kind of job that pays the bills and puts food on his table I guess. Anyway I digress.

    As we walked into the establishment it all came in crystal clear. He spoke with everybody and everybody spoke with Wayne. It was like watching all the kids "high five" the kid who just hit the game winning home run. Truth be told, It's surprizing he didn;t score a 90% at the polls. Yeah I don't know what he could have done to get the golf vote.

    Again, you may not like him or his politics, but we do. While I agree you are entitled to your opinions and you may be right in some instances, your approach is soooo personal it is abrasive and we just don't want to hear it.

    There are enough things to write about without getting personal and you are certainly capable of intelligent thought. Try the constructive approach.

    You know what I like about Wayne. He'll sit down with just about anybody and drink a cold beer.

    God Save the Mayor!

     
  • At 6/16/2006 10:41 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    To Jeff,

    I again ask that we meet and sit over a cup of something and I will explain my position and reasons I feel the way I do and why I do what I do. After that if you still think I "do not get it" then that is your perogative. What we discuss will not go beyond and you identity shall remain with me.

     
  • At 6/19/2006 3:09 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Have a cup of coffee with you? No way! Your opinions are so distorted that it would be futile to discuss anything with you. According to your blogs your mind is closed to any discussions ever. Amen!

     
  • At 6/19/2006 3:53 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Looks as if the 3:09 anonypous is also closed mind. Keep those blinders on and see where that gets you.

     
  • At 6/19/2006 11:12 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    Let us see. The Elkton planning commision tonight recommended that the Dominion Ridge project proceed, as all their concerns have been met and all ordinances are being adhered to.

    We have a paper from a law firm that indicates the Town of Elkton has no financial liability for the proposed golf course.

    We have a binding contract with Angler that Mr. Printz himself signed.

    When I asked why the Town should not proceed, Mr. Printz, once again stated that there are serious issues that must be discussed. Just like last month when asked the same question, he just sat there and said again that there are serious issues. I would really like to know what these issues are. If we knew maybe we might have some agreement, but alas no explanation was forthcoming.

    I wonder what the real reason for the stalemate might be?????

    On another issue. The Town is under mandate by the Department of Environmental Quality (DEQ) to upgrade the sewer plant to meet new and more stringent levels of pollutants being dumped into the river. These are unfunded mandates. Yet in the new budget Mr. Printz is taking $100,000 out of the sewer fund to be used elsewhere. I wonder where the money is going to come from for these mandated upgrades. These must be made even if no other housing units are connected.

     
  • At 6/20/2006 7:48 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    RE: Jeff

    I'm sure "his honor" has no problen having a cold beer with someone. In fact I bet he would just jump at the opportunity to put down the beer and get into "someone elses hard stash" if you know what I mean. You never make any money when you smoke your own supply. WINK WINK.....

     
  • At 6/20/2006 8:24 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Anonymous at 7:48 AM: How utterly, utterly disgusting you are. You are making unsubstantiated innuendos against a Mayor whom you obviously do not like - but for your information, scurrilous charges are slanderous. You sure you want to go there? How pitiful that you have nothing better to do than to imply misdoings on the part of the Mayor. Obviously you have no shame nor decency.

     
  • At 6/20/2006 9:21 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Anonymous at 8:24

    I believe your mayor wrote the book on making possible slanderous accusations against others, ie. statements made against Dennis. Funny how Wayne can be critical of everyone else but gotta play the slander lawsuit case whenever anyone fires back at him. I'm sure he has a copy of what I said and I'm sure he's crying to anyone that will listen to him about how he tries to please everyone and do the right thing but there is always someone picking on him. By the way Wayne, how is the audit going? Did you find anything incriminating against the Town Manager or once again are you showing everyone how you talk out of your ass, unable to back anything up?

     
  • At 6/20/2006 10:02 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    Mr. Printz has back stepped on the audit issue, that he requested, at a very quick pace once Mr. Donachy agreed to the audit and took the steps to secure a CPA firm to do the audit. When presented the letter to be signed for the audit he completely ignored the issue and did not sign the letter. He even had the audacity, using his position as mayor to attempt to stop the audit from taking place by sending a letter on town letter head to the CPA firm stating that if they did the work they would not get paid.

    Is this misuse of office? He is using his position as mayor to try to circumvent a legal action taken by the sitting council. A motion was made and passed to have the audit done.

    His stated reason for not wanting the audit is that he does not think the town need spend the money for the audit. He does not want to spend the money for the audit but I hear he wanted to send a similar amount to the town of Shenandoah after the fire. I wonder what the real reasons are for his turning tail on the audit issue. I can only surmise.

    Mr. Donachy requested either a letter signed by Mr. Printz that the charges and accusations had no basis and the charges were false, or he wanted the audit. Mr. Printz did his usual silent stare and made no comment on the requested letter. Then and only then did the council vote to go ahead with the audit.

    I can only hope that outside interests take a look at the situation here in Elkton and force a forensic audit.

     
  • At 6/20/2006 11:13 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I can understand the mayor's position about not wanting to spend the town's money on the audit. The town's financial situation is definiately on life support following this whole Angler property development "get rich quick scheme."

    What I purpose is a collection from private citizens to pay for the cost of the audit. Since she always has to have her nose in everything, the fundraising could be coordinated by Ms. Hazel Crider. I can't speak for everyone but I would have no problem making a sizable donation just to see how Mr. Printz reacts once it is found that he has jumped the gun and falsely accused someone else once again. Once that project is paid for, then Hazel can use her wonderful people skills to raise money for Wayne's attorney fees once Dennis sues him for slander and harassment.

    By the way anyone looking to purchase a used car wash? I'm sure that along with alot of other quatily merchandise will be liquidated during the Wayne Printz, I JUST GOT SUED CAUSE I CAN'T KEEP MY BIG MOUTH SHUT firesale.......

     
  • At 6/21/2006 7:47 AM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    What a great idea. I have a couple of c notes I would be willing to donate to the audit cause. If anyone is really interested in pursuing this avenue please contact me. I would start the ball rolling by opening an audit account at a local bank to which concerned citizens could donate directly to the fund.

     
  • At 6/21/2006 3:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    What a disgusting bunch of nasty jerks you are. If you can't say something nice about somebody, don't say nothing at all, butt you dunderheads don't have the smarts to know when you are obnoxious, or just plain nauseous. Not afraid of lawsuits???? HA!!!!!

     
  • At 6/21/2006 3:05 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Hey great - you go guy. This town doesn't cater to vicious clowns or stupid jerks. Wayne and the new council reigns. Maybe the nutheads will go away to torture someone else. They don't have a life, so they try to intimidate those they are jealous of. Aaaah!

     
  • At 6/21/2006 4:12 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    Once again those who cannot write an intelligent post must resort to name calling and character assination. FWD really needs to wake up and smell the roses. Time and again Mr. Printz's words have come back to haunt.

    A person posting came up with a good idea on how to alleviate Mr. Printz's concern about not spending town money on the audit he requested and some already are name calling names and slandering.

    I have spoken with a banker in town today and he assures me this is a feasable thing to do. I am now seeking an attorney to act as the trustee of the account. Monies sent to the account would be dispersed to the CPA firm selected to do the forensic audit.

    Another approach is that the town will soon have their annual audit which costs them approximately $6,000. If we combine the regular audit with the forensic audit this would then only be about $9,000 that had to be collected by the Elkton Audit Fund.

    If excess funds are collected, any over and above the cost of the audit would be donated to the community center or to the town to help pay for fixing the Kids Castle.

    Again, if anyone wants to get involved, give me a call. I am in the book.

     
  • At 6/21/2006 8:09 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Vic,

    Unlike all these Wayne band wagon members we have in here I say lets put our money where our mouth is. Go public with the idea. Propose it at the next council meeting, place an ad in the DNR or Valley Banner. Lets show everyone we are not like Wayne, we back up what we say...

     
  • At 6/21/2006 10:30 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    I have already taken steps to begin the process. The banker I spoke to today will assist in setting up the special account. The bank will not be able to be the trustee of the account. I have been putting feelers out to see if we can get some young attorney to take the job pro bono. Their only job would be to disperse funds as needed to the audit firm. Getting an attorney to be the trustee was at the suggestion of the banker. He felt this would eliminate any possibility of someone attempting to accuse anyone of tampering with the funds.

    I have also sent an e-mail to Jenny Jones of the DNR to see if she would do a piece on the process. If not I will personally pay for an announcement in both the DNR and the Valley Banner.

    I have also sent an e-mail to Mr. Printz offering our financial assistance in his effort to get the audit going. He will no longer have the excuse that he does not want to spend taxpayer money. I am awaiting a reply from him. Probably will not get one.

    Progress reports will be forthcomeing. If anyone would like to assist in the effort to get this going please give me a call.

     
  • At 6/21/2006 10:36 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Vic,

    I would love to help. I would like to remain behind the scenes as a "unnamed partner" due to a possible conflict of interest. Please let me know what I can do to help

     
  • At 6/21/2006 11:03 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    I would like to know who I am dealing with. Your identity would remain anonymous but I would like to sit and discuss how we can make this work. It can get lonely on the front lines. We can meet somewhere out of the area if necesssary.

     
  • At 6/22/2006 6:37 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Vic,

    Do you have e-mail?

     
  • At 6/22/2006 7:06 AM, Anonymous viccorbo said…

    viccorbo@yahoo.com

     
  • At 6/22/2006 10:25 AM, Blogger jeff said…

    Amazing:

    WOW!

    A fundraiser supported by Vic designed to protect the identities of some individuals in order to establish the innocence of a town manager who wants to be fired rather than resign so he can retain the compensation due him because his fake real estate license doesn't pay and he feels his days are numbered because of his position with the Mayor and the "Angler" project even though the "Angler" people are playing nice and accepting long delays because the political climate including the words of Vic have made the "Angler" financial backers skittish.

    Vic, again I admire your continued use of the "First Ammendment", but fail to understand why you write that you will not respond to the anonymous and yet offer to meet secretly. I don't think this is your way of exposing people. It just seems like a mixed message.

    Are you writing one thing and when it gets you nowhere, you offer another?

    Now where have I heard that before.

     
  • At 6/22/2006 11:11 AM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    Jeff, I have also offered to meet with you a number of times. You apparently are not really sure of your convictions. If some of you would come out from behind your anonymous mask and talk face to face with an open mind then maybe both sides would understand each others position.

    The idea of the audit fund was not mine. I am only looking into how to implement it.

    Mr. Printz's own reason for not proceeding with the audit is that he did not want to spend town money to go forward, so we are giving him the opportunity to have his audit and not cost the town money. The request for the audit was his, not mine or Mr. Donachys.

    The audit may serve two purposes, one to prove or disprove Mr. Printz's allegations, and to root out any other forms of mismanagement in the operation of the town. Let the chips fall where they may.

    If everyone in the inner circle is so sure of things why are they fighting so hard to stop the audit. Anyone with nothing to fear would welcome the chance to see that things are as they should be.

    I really do like this town and that is why I do what I do. I believe there is no longer a place in Elkton for some folks type of politics.

    Over the past few weeks I have been approached by a number of citizens, a couple do not like my activism, but the majority like that fact that I want to ensure that this town is run in a legal and ethical manner.

    I have placed an e-mail address out there in plain view. If anyone would like to meet and talk just send me an e-mail. Any flames or nasty writing will be ignored.

    Just remember that the actual e-mail senders name is available to the authorities so keep things civil. Any threats or intimidation to myself or my family will be legally dealt with.

     
  • At 6/23/2006 7:51 AM, Blogger jeff said…

    Yo Vic!

    What a strange comment. How can you write that I am not sure of my convictions based on my not meeting you. Here is a fact...You have no influence on my convictions. If you did not exist, I would still feel the same. Should you decide to temper or cease your so called activism, I would, that's right still be the same person. Our meeting, not meeting or establishing a relationship bears no influence on my convictions.

    Just for the record, I have not been avoiding you, nor am I hiding behind some mask. There are plenty of people out there who know who I am, some have called on me whom I have never met. One called on me rather upset about some things that I had written.

    I say it again. The option for some to write anonymously allows an individual to lower his or her inhibitions, thus sparking an honest dialogue.

    Think about it...if everybody who has written in this blog were required to disclose their true identity, you might not have any forum to express your convictions.

     
  • At 6/23/2006 12:17 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    Strange things are happening in Elkton.

    Published in todays issue of the DNR is a notice for a special meeting to be held Tuesday, June 22nd at the town hall in the council chambers.

    One of the items on the agenda, item #2, is to transfer $15,000 to an escrow account for an internal control review, the requested audit.

    Someone, I guess in an underhanded attempt to confuse the public and the media, sent an unsolicited fax to the Valley Banner saying the meeting had been changed to Monday and indicated a different agenda. It was verified by Rick Carey, clerk of council that the fax did not originate from his office.

    Not only was the fax unsolicited, but because it did not contain a sending phone number, it was also probably illegal.

    Someone seems really intent on stopping the audit. I really wonder what they may be afraid will be revealed.

     
  • At 6/23/2006 3:51 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    For those who may not have heard.

    Mr. Printz has called an 'emergency' council meeting for 7:15PM on the 27th. The same night the council is holding the announced special session.

    His announced agenda is:

    1. Shelter Reimbursment request
    2. Replace/Repair Kids Castle
    3. Community Center Kitchen Equip.

     
  • At 6/27/2006 10:50 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    Twas an interesting meeting of the council this evening for those of you who did not attend.

    The council voted 4 - 0 to lower the town real estate tax to 8.5 cents per $100 of accessed valuation. Even though the rate was decreased, most property owners will probably see an increase in their taxes due to the recent re-evaluation by the county.

    Three issues were not acted upon due to advice of the town council. He said the cigarette tax and the increase in water rates had to have a published notice and a public hearing must be held prior to levying the tax.

    Concerning the financing of the audit. A motion was made, seconded and passed by a 4 - 0 vote to approve dispursing $15,000 for the audit and that the audit be prepaid. If action is taken in a timely manner this should be a big deterrent to Mr. Printz in his attempts to stop the audit.

    Mr. Printz told me one day in Town Hall that I needed to find out who the real crooks were. Maybe now we will find out.

    Hopefully the town employees and staff will be truthful with the auditors. If anyone attempts to influence the audit, in any way, it would probably indicate a desire to withhold the truth.

    As I said previously, let the chips fall where they may.

     
  • At 6/28/2006 5:46 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Has everyone in the inner circle received their allocation of free car wash tokens?

     
  • At 6/28/2006 8:23 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Hey Vic:

    Now that I have to pay for an audit because the council I never voted for (I was annexed by them) decided days before their terms ended, will you and your friends re-imburse the town for the expense? Or was that just words?

    By the way, you keep mentioning the "serious issues" our Mayor keeps bringing up. How about the 75% against Dominion Ridge. Or is that not serious to you? Too bad the people who because of their address could not vote on Dominion Ridge. It might have been 85%. The voting numbers are very serious.

     
  • At 6/28/2006 10:52 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Ref: Anonymous,

    I believe it was the mayor and not the council members that first brought the motion to have an audit done. He bluffed and was called on it, now he doesn't want to admit he was wrong and take responsibility for his actions. Typical Printz. As for the donations to pay for the audit, do I need to make my check out to the Town of Elkton, or to Wayne's big mouth fund???

     
  • At 6/28/2006 10:54 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    By the way I see we are just a little over 2 days til the start of the new council or as I like to call it, "The Beginning of Armageddon" Oh happy day :)

     
  • At 6/28/2006 11:11 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    Mr. Printz was given ample opportunity on Tuesday evening to not have the audit go forward. All he had to do was give Mr. Donachy a letter stating that the allegations he made were unfounded and had no merit. He was asked more than once to provide the letter. Mr. Printz refused to write such a letter. Only then did the council vote to fund the audit. This I feel was the right thing to do. If Mr. Printz accused you of wrong doing would you not want the opportunity to have your reputation cleared? Or because it was Mr. Printz making the claims then is that OK?

    I do not believe his serious issues have anything to do with the election results. I have looked back at most of what was published by Mr. Printz during the campaign and there was no mention by him of stopping the Dominion Ridge project. The four winning candidates for council ran on a “no town owned golf course” platform. Well the golf course will not be town owned. What was once his own pet project now has these "serious issues" that he refuses to divulge. When he was doing the main negotiating the Dominion Ridge project was the best thing since sliced bread.

    Here are some quotes taken from his Aug 16,2005 interview on TV.

    "My biggest concern was the debt load we had when purchasing the property off of Mrs. Kite," said Printz (We still have this huge debt load)

    But Angler came along offering $4.7 million to buy the land for a golf course and a housing development that could see more than seven hundred homes. (The offer is still on the table)

    "We might have had no one there to deal with then we really would have had a problem cause you would have seen your taxes go up and all the things we don't want to see happen," said Printz (With no 4.7 million tax and fee hikes are very likely)

    "That's what the town officials wanted to make sure that there is no liability that could be transferred to the town citizens," said Printz. (No town liability proven by legal council)

    All in all, Printz says at least the development is being guided by the town.
    (Still true)

    "The development at Mrs. Kite's property or any property in the town would have Occurred with or without us," said Printz

    What has transpired since Aug that has now soured him on the project? Without the project the town still owes nearly six million dollars and probably much more if the town defaults on the contract.

    How does Mr. Printz expect to pay this debt? Does he have some magic in his pockets? Is there another developer in the wings with a better deal? It will be interesting to see what Mr. Printz pulls out of his magic hat.

     
  • At 6/28/2006 11:19 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Hopkins, Berry, Powell, Mowbray, Pham. Is anyone out there familiar with these names?

     
  • At 6/29/2006 10:41 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    Looks as if Mr. Printz is once again up to his attempts to be dictator of Elkton. I was informed that he called the CPA firm who has been hired to do the audit and told them not to cash the check presented. Hopefully they will not comply.

    I have sent an e-mail to both the County Sheriffs dept and the Commonwealth Attorney asking for a ruling as to whether this action along with his letter writing to the Governor of Virginia and his previous letter to the CPA firm can be considered abuse of office.

    He is attempting to use his position as mayor to try to override not only legal actions of the Town Council but the legal proceedings of the legislature.

     
  • At 6/30/2006 6:42 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    For those who did not receive notice.

    Mr. Printz has called an emergency meeting of the Elkton Town Council for 3:00 PM on Saturday July 1, 2006 in council chambers located at 173 W. Spotswood Ave. in Elkton. The purpose of the meeting is as follows:

    1. Vice Mayor appointment
    2. Committee Appointments
    3. Town Attorney Appointment
    4. Closing of Town offices on July 3rd 2006
    5. Deferred compensation policy
    6. Review Town employee salary increases
    7. Trailer on Wirt Ave and Trailers in town limits.

    There are also 9 other topics that are slated for closed session.

     
  • At 7/01/2006 9:07 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Reading all the recent blogs, we should be filled with disgust and anger at the hate and villification by VC and others at the Mayor and others in this great Town, who, if they have any character, would realize how they are again making this town a place of derision. The opposite of "hate" is "love". We won't stoop to their level; we just pray they will come to their senses and see the goodness and decency in this Town and the people who live here, especially those good people who have lived here all their lives. Those people who come into our Town and cause dissension and disharmony, should be ashamed of themselves - but then, of course, do they even have any shame??? Let's have some peace and dignity for a change. How we would love to see some uplifting missives instead of all the ugly diatribes. Come on guys, you can put away your animosity and hatred, and either chose to love this Town and ALL it'people, or leave and take your misery with you. Too much to hope for???

     
  • At 7/01/2006 10:34 AM, Anonymous vicccorbo said…

    Since you mention me by initials I feel I should reply. If you go back and really read what I have posted you will see that I have not written anything about any citizen of Elkton but one.

    Everything I have written is the result of actions taken and words spoken by Mr. Printz. He seems to 'forget' what he has said and then denies facts.

    A couple of folks posting here and in council chambers have said that I don't get it. Well, I guess I do not get it. Poster Jeff stated in one post that "You just don't seem to get it. You may not like Wayne personally, you may think he stretches the truth from time to time, I might even agree that what you write "MAY" have some truth's.

    What you fail to get is "We the People" don't care that from time to time there are some discrepancies with what might be said on Monday and what might be said on Tuesday."

    I do not believe a person in a position of public trust should act or speak as does Mr. Printz.

    Mr. Printz seems to love grandstanding. Many folks both in Elkton and in the county worked hard to get the agreement settled over the participation of the county in the community center. Mr. Printz invited TV3 to the community center to tape an orchestrated commercial where a large check was held up in the amount of $250,000 from Rockingham County to Elkton for remodeling of the community center.

    This was done two weeks before election without the knowledge of the Council or County representatives who also supported and worked hard for this payment. Political posturing at its finest.

    On election day Mr. Printz and his folks were handing out a 'sample ballot'. The election laws state that "A sample ballot is a copy of the official ballot. Every sample ballot must clearly state who authorized and/or paid to have it printed". Only Mr. Printz and his four running mates appeared on his sample ballot and did not contain the required information about authorization or payment. When asked if this was legal, his reply was something that should not come from one that I would like to be our mayor. When confronted with this he naturally denied saying it. I know otherwise.

    Wake up folks before it gets worse than it is.

     
  • At 7/01/2006 9:27 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Vic - worse than it is?? Who is the one person posting missive after missive making spurious jibes at the Mayor. Just what is your agenda Vic. You seem to have such hatred against the Mayor you can't stop your constant attacks. Frankly, I'll associate myself with the good Mayor since the more you criticize and villify him, the more people realize what kind of nasty person you are. If anybody is making it worse than it is, it is YOU. You need to get a life and change your hatred and anger into someting positive. Do you wonder why so many people love the MAYOR ? Because he is a decent man who is caring and kind and treats everyone the same. He cares about the people of Elkton. Why are you so antagonistic toward the Mayor. Why do you continue to try to dig up anything you can to make him look bad? Do you know that by doing what you are doing, this is a reflection on the good people of Elkton who voted for him in a landslide victory. You are in essence denigrating their intelligence in voting for him. Actually you are almost bordering on harassment. Guess that never occured to you did it? What is this "me, me, me, I, I, I. business? Since when are you the only person who dictates how things should be in this town? Using your own words, "wake up" because YOU are making things worse.

     
  • At 7/01/2006 11:45 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    Here is a big part of the problem at hand.

    Regular Council Meeting
    December 19,2005

    Mayor Printz stated he will work to eliminate the Town Manager’s position because “it does not work.” His right to set the agenda has been diminished and the Town is going in the wrong direction. That opinion is shared by the majority of the people. Mayor Printz believed. The Town is governed by non-elected leadership. Council is willing to delegate their powers to a Town Manager, but Mayor. Printz is unwilling to do that. He maintained that was not what he was elected to do.

    It is all about power.

    The Town was not being run by non-elected leadership. The council runs the town and delegates the daily operations to the town manager. Mr. Printz just lost his ability to micromanage the working man on the street and in town hall.

    Does Mr. Printz’s statements mean that if the new council hires a new town manager, he will once again work to eliminate the Town Manager’s position?
    Looks as if he may do just that.

     
  • At 7/02/2006 7:19 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Thanks to all you wonderful bloggers out there who are intelligent enough to see through the "gobbledegook" posted on this blog by people who write gross distortions of anything the Mayor does or says. Those good people who write with respect and dignity, we salute you. God bless you all! You are what this Town is all about - love and charity toward our fellowman. Please keep on refuting baseless diatribes from people who would love to divide us. God bless our good Mayor and councilmen in all their endeavors. Although we find it hard to forgive meanness and plain viciousness, we constantly repeat the Lord's prayer with fervor. Try it! Hopefully you will find peace and contenment in letting go of your anger and self-righeouness. We surely pray so.

     
  • At 7/02/2006 7:42 AM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    There is nothing baseless about anything I have written. Every bit has been taken from Council minutes, newspaper articles,and television stories. A number of citizens have approached me and provided other incidents. But until threre is documented proof they will not be brought forth. Unlike some I do not make baseless statements and disguize them as "Only Asking Questions".

    As I have said before, educate yourselves by reading the history of the governing of Elkton. If you do so with an open mind you may change your opinion of some. It is not always what some citizens want but what is best for the town.

    It is sad that only 800+ folks turned out on election day out of the 1600 registered voters. Maybe the outcome would have been different.

    It is because not enough citizens get involved in local government that much of what has happened continues to happen.

    I sincerely hope that the new council members do what is best for Elkton and not let any one person sway their thinking or try to lead them astray.

     
  • At 7/02/2006 2:42 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Give it up Vic. We have decided not to answer you anymore. From now on you can continue to write your repitious missives because we would rather spend time on other good worthwhile causes. I suggest you do the same.

    We have given our confidence and support to the new council and our illustrious Mayor. We TRUST them to do everything in their power to bring this Town back to where we can be proud to once again say we live here.

    So you can post your drivel because we won't be logging on to it. You "ain't worth it. By the way, pick on somebody who is your equal, cause' you're failing in your attempt to take on individuals who are far more intelligent and superior than you. Adios, adieu, sayonra, auf weidersehn, ta ta. etc. Wow, that feels so good.

     
  • At 7/02/2006 3:03 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    I also am willing to support the town council and told some of them so outside council chambers after the meeting on Saturday. I was up front and I told them as long as they run the town in a legal and ethical manner they will have my support and I will work with them to ensure Elkton does indeed become a better place.

    This does not mean that if I see things that are amiss I will not bring them to the public and/or the proper authorities.

     
  • At 7/02/2006 4:05 PM, Blogger jeff said…

    Hey Vic:

    Let me challenge you. I have read every post you have written and while you are not alone, you are clearly in the minority. Here's the challenge. Do some research if necessary, but please write three things, just three, with a positive slant about Wayne Prints the man or Wayne Printz the Mayor.

    It should not be that difficult. We have not met and yet I can think of several positives you bring to the table. You seem quite passionate, your literacy is refreshing in today's society and you keep a neat yard.

    There that wasn't too difficult and again, we've never met.

    Just three Vic, just three...

     
  • At 7/02/2006 5:18 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    Here you are:

    1. He is charismatic
    2. He likes to help people
    3. He is well dressed

    Based on your comment about my yard you apparently know where I live. Next time you do a drive by stop and ring the door bell. I promise I will not bite. I will not even talk politics or Mr. Printz.

     
  • At 7/02/2006 8:37 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Sorry folks I have been away for the past few days and have not been able to comment. I would like to add a comment to Vic previous post and do something I have never done before, say three things positive about Mr. Printz. Here goes:

    His hair dye job almost looks natural.

    He's a great ass kisser.

    He's not a twin.

    WOW that does make me feel alot better.

     
  • At 7/02/2006 11:30 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    The wiseass who posted three stupid things about the Mayor - hey, I know you. First of all, if it is a dye job, why should you care. We look at the person for who he is. (You ain't so hot yourself jerk.) Secondly, jealous because he hasn't kissed your backside? Thirdly, we wish he were a twin - then he could accomplish twice as much of all the good things he has done and is doing for this Town.

    You want three good things about the Mayor?

    1. He is a good decent caring man.

    2. He won another term by a landslide because he's the people of Elkton's kind of guy.

    3. He's not you - thank God.

    Such is life - live with it or say goodbye to a wonderful Town and leave us all in peace.

     
  • At 7/03/2006 7:45 AM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    To the 11:30 PM poster.

    I have responded to the challange of saying three positive things about Mr. Printz. Please join in the positive slant discussion and backup your statement and name three really good things Mr. Printz has done for the town. Folks will then have the opportunity to debate on an intellegent level the validity of thing presented. Keep things civil and stop the name calling and character assination.

    As I have said before I have only posted factual information gleened from council minutes, newspaper items and TV interviews. Those who parictipate should also provide factual proof to their claims.

    The topics do not have to be only concerning Mr. Printz but any issue facing the Town of Elkton today. Why we are where we are today and how citizens think things can be fixed.

    The gauntlet has been dropped.

     
  • At 7/03/2006 9:52 AM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    I am still wondering why Mr. Printz has been delaying the closing of the property for Dominion Ridge. His only statements so far have been that there are serious issues. None have been forthcoming. I quote below from a letter to the editer Mr. Printz had published in the 3/31/05 issue of The Valley Banner.

    "The Town of Elkton recently completed the sale agreement of Miss Kites former property. Subsequently to Angler's due diligence and comprehensive examination of the property and approval of a proposed development plan, the Town of Elkton will receive approximately $4.7 million in cash, retain ownership of the Kite House and approximately 130 acres for a golf course, COMPLETELY FREE OF ANY DEBT. The entire value of the transaction is close to $10 million, without considering the positive economic impact to our local businesses, employment and eradication of town debt.

    In reviewing our position, lets remember that myself and this council were thrust into a situation where the town was almost $2 million in debt and had no plan for the use of Miss Kite's former property."

    You may read the entire content of the letter in the issue of the paper cited above.

    As far as being thrust, Mr. Printz is one of those who acted to buy Miss Kite's property. He helped to do the thrusting.

    What has changed since his letter. Is this what is commonly considered waffleing? The town is still in debt for the Kite property as well as other loans floated for the community center and the penacostal hill project. About $6 million now.

    As Mr. Printz has said, I am not making any accusations, just asking questions.

     
  • At 7/03/2006 6:54 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Who is this Vic Carbo? After reading post after post which this guy writes, I wonder if he realizes what a one dimension fellow he is. Evidently he has a goal, and that goal is to demean and castigate the Mayor. But by doing so he is hurting all the nice people of Elkton. Who does he think he is to attend meetings and act as though he is part of the council? His remark that he would suppport the council as long as they do things his way,(in essence), smacks of self-righeousness and discrimination. Who is he to tell elected officials how to run the town? We cannot believe there are people who are so self-serving, they can't see any other ideas except their own. Then they strike back viciously if they don't get their way. Grow up and get a life, and stop trying to dictate someone else's! What a pathetic human being! Thank the bloggers who have challenged the audacity of somebody who thinks with his little mind that he is better than the Mayor. Keep it up! We first time bloggers appreciate your intellect and decency. As someone else writes, "PEACE AND LOVE" to the good people of Elkton, our Mayor and coulcil persons.

     
  • At 7/03/2006 7:36 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    To the 6:54 poster.

    Because of the way you write your mind must be smaller than mine. Another who must stoop to name calling and assassination of character.

    First of all I did not say I wanted the council to do things my way, your words, not mine. I said I wished for them to do things legally and ethically. To say otherwise I assume that you support illegal and unethical behavior. Glad that you are not on the council. But then because you write anonymously you may just well be. That is really scary.

    The only thing selfserving about my position is that I want to ensure our tax dollars are spent wisely and not wasted on unauthorized expendatures. You should have the same self serving purpose.

    The return challange is still on the table. Tell me at least three positive things Mr. Printz has done for the town in the last two years.

     
  • At 7/04/2006 8:38 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Since when did VC become the arbitrator or critic of what transpires at council meetings? Who elected him to put his own spin on things that are said and done in meetings, and then go and publish them in either the newspapers or on the blogs. This blogging is new to me, but I am absolutly astounded at the ugliness of anybody so busy digging up dirt on the Mayor, they are blinded to everything except their conception of what they are doing is right. WRONG! It is a "GOTCHA" thing. As to my being a member of the council - wouldn't you like to know?? The answer is, "no comment". Live with it!

     
  • At 7/04/2006 9:17 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Why does Carbo want bloggers to name three positive things the Mayor has done. How about one big one - THE NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER - the Mayor presided over a beautiful service on the lawn of the Town Hall. There was singing by our Elkton School Children's choir, also "High On The Mountain" was sung by a very dear friend. Ministers from many denominations took part in the ceremony attended by people from Elkton and other surrounding areas. Were you there?? The Mayor was instrumental in making this day a blessed one for Elkton and its citizens. He made sure everyone was comfortable and made sure seating was provided for everyone, especially the elder residents. So VC, I won't take time to cite other good things Wayne has done - they are too numerous to mention. Can you name three good things about yourself, or are you too busy researching bad things about the Mayor? C'est la vie!

     
  • At 7/04/2006 10:24 AM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    One of the posters challenged me to say three positive things about Mr. Printz. I returned in kind. If you read the thread you will see that I attempted to get a dialog going but you are the first to respond with something positive about Mr. Printz.

    I commend Mr. Printz for organizing the National Day of Prayer event. This is what a mayor should do. It is what is expected and desired for a person in the position of mayor. Even the Virginia code agrees.

    Section 15.2-1423, Powers of chairman or mayor.

    In addition to being presiding officer, the chairman or mayor, as the case may be, shall be head of the local government for all official functions and ceremonial purposes.

    If you wish to hear good things about me you really need to speak to my friends, neighbors, and family. It would be a bit arrogant and self serving for me to pat myself on my back as some others do.

     
  • At 7/04/2006 10:48 AM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    On Saturday afternoon after the emergency council meeting a neighbor of mine and I had a rather lengthy discussion with Mike O'Neill out in the parking lot.

    When the topic of the Dominion Ridge project came up I asked him, as I have asked Mr. Printz, to tell me what concerns he has with the project.

    Without hesitation one of his concerns is the amount of traffic that would occur on Mr. Pleasant Road and local town streets. Now with this information one can evaluate the concern which I have done.

    From the approximate area of JK's house it is .6 miles to the intersection of North St. Via Spotswood Ave it is .5 miles to Rt. 340. This is a valid concern if all traffic from the project will dump out on city streets.

    This is the type of concern that has been asked of Mr. Printz on numerous occasions by not only me but a couple of others. What is so secret that he will not be forthcoming enough to make his concerns known so we may decide for ourselves as to their validity.

    Open and honest government.

     
  • At 7/04/2006 4:44 PM, Blogger jeff said…

    That's right. Every single car, all 2.3 per home of them will ride down Mt Pleasant Road or Newtown Road in an attempt to get anywhere. Each and everyone of them throwing more trash along the road, killing more wildlife, making more noise, creating congestion,. Just how do we plan to get these folks to Rt 33. Through all the neighborhoods I suppose. What a mess.

     
  • At 7/04/2006 4:48 PM, Blogger jeff said…

    Oh By the way...

    To the new blogger out there, welcome. Please return from time to time and add your view to this blog. If you have not already done so, read from the start. It is interseting to say the least.

     
  • At 7/04/2006 5:23 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    Jeff, I guess for once we actually agree on something. There is seemingly no easy ingress/egress from that area. From looking at the master plan I believe all golf course traffic will be from 33. You have been here a bit longer than me, are there no roads from 33 that intersect with Mt. Pleasant?

    While problems exist with any development, I am sure there is probably a solution out there somewhere. I do not believe trashing the entire project is not the answer. If not Angler, then someone else in the future.

    Mr. Printz along with other council members got the Town into the pickle it is in today, but as usual he will not take responsibility for any of his actions. While Randell waa on the council at the time of the purchase of the property, it was Mike O'Neill who made the motion to purchase. He at least told me face to face, not blaming anyone else. With such a big debt load it seems there is no out except to go through with the project ensuring the concerns are addressed.

    Besides the approximate $6 million already owed, a bunch more is on the table if something does not happen with the project. No matter who the developer is, if any, there will be issues to be addressed.

    If anyone else out there has a sensible solution let them come forth and present. It would have to be something reasonable and able to get the town out of the debt pickle it is in today.

     
  • At 7/04/2006 9:21 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Re: Printz organizing the "National Day of Prayer"

    I have one question. What happened to the separation of church and state???

     
  • At 7/05/2006 7:53 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Hey Cynical out there - It was a NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER and many ministers from our the area, and surrounding areas participated. By the way - the "Separation of Church" you so wrongly state is not in the Constitution. The whole nation celebrated the "National Day of Prayer" so the Mayor and the Town of Elkton were in their rights to participate in praising God, thanking him for all our blessings, and asking HIM to bless our Town and all the people in it. If, indeed you live here, that includes you.

    Why do you use every opportunity to criticize the Mayor? You even criticize him (and all the ministers and lay people who participated) for gathering together peacefully in ONE HOUR of a beautiful program? How low can you get.

     
  • At 7/05/2006 7:54 AM, Blogger jeff said…

    Vic:

    Go back a bit. We have agreed before. Tanyard Bridge Road connects 33 to Mt Pleasant just beyond the Taylor Property. It's not the golf course cars. They should stay on 33. It's the residents and curiosity people that will cause the congestion. Let's not forget what Rt 340 will be like when Dominion Ridge cars meet Elkwood cars.

    As for the 9:21 PM poster. Let's not go down the "separation" road. Fact, nowhere in any federal document is "separation" written. Start another blog specific to the subject and I'll join as will many others.

     
  • At 7/05/2006 9:58 AM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    Jeff, My concern about the increased traffic is not new. On 11/23/05 I sent a letter to the editor of The Valley Banner about the increased traffic from the Elkwood development.

    I understand that Elkwood was started a number of years ago by another developer. I have been told that due to major differences with the council at that time the developer walked away. It was just a matter of time before someone purchased the land and moved forward. It just so happens to be Angler.

    Through decent negotiations several positives have come out of the deal. Residents there have complained about insufficient water pressure for years with nothing being done. A new well has already been dug. A water tower and pumping station will be added, these are major improvements not only for the new housing but for the existing residents. Per unit proffers designated to be used only for upgrades to the sewer plant, and the donated site for a planned elementary school. This is now in jeopardy because it is part of the contract for Dominion Ridge.

    It would still be nice to meet and discuss our positions without the name calling and nastiness some seem to be prone to.

     
  • At 7/05/2006 11:06 AM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    Continuing on, I have some comments on the article that appeared in todays DNR and on the actual meeting held on Sat, July 1st.

    As Mr. Printz stated at a council meeting, he now has achieved his goal of eliminating the position of town manager. He now resumes his march to return to "power". Is the new council going to name Mr. Printz Chief Administrative Officer? Then and only then, per state code, will Mr. Printz have the power he so craves.

    I realy believe the way the council terminated Mr. Donachy is not valid. As the newspaper article said, "he withdrew his request". If Mr. Donachy withdrew his letter, I believe legally it no longer existed. If no letter now exists, Mr. O'Neill's motion to accept the letter is probably invalid. I have asked the Virginia Municipal League (VML) for a ruling.

    I have also questioned the legality of the entire meeting. Mr. Kite's letter in The Valley Banner last week is an indication that an "emergency" meeting had been preplanned.

    Another questionable thing. All motions made at the Sat meeting were made by Mr. Dearing and Mr. O'Neill. These motions were read from pre-written scripts. This indicates to me that all actions taken were pre-planned at non public meetings. Probably also invalid.

     
  • At 7/05/2006 12:27 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Mr. Carbo - you must be so proud of yourself by inserting yourself into everything that transpires in council meetings.

    I majored in psychology at the University,but I cannot phanthom why you think it is your duty to impose and air your views because you have this constant need to criticize the Mayor, the council and every who disagrees with you?
    The Mayor and the council did the right thing in having Mr. Donachy removed. By the way the Letter Mr. Donachy submitted to the council (which he later withdrew) was a "Letter of Termination", not a "Letter of Resignation." If you have any common sense you will know that the council and Mayor had advice from their lawyer as to how to proceed with the "ousting" of Mr. Donachy. Do you know more than the Lawyers do? I think we should look into your interference in a legal matter that does not concern you. You claim you are always factual - me thinks not! Why are you so vindictive? It is so blatant in your postings that you positively abhor the Mayor, and now you are taking on the council too? Don't you have anything else to do with your life except to torment the people of Elkton with your rantings? Our Elkton citizens and its officials should not have to be subjected to partisan hacks who spout their hatred and "know it all" attitudes toward us.

     
  • At 7/05/2006 1:21 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    Maybe if you used your psychology expertise and delve into what makes Mr. Printz tick you might get an insight into what makes me tick.

    I do not recall calling it a letter of resignation. My last post said "the way the council terminated Mr. Donachy". Please read and understand what has been written. As you said Mr. Donachy "(later withdrew)". If the letter was withdrawn then as I said there was no letter for the council to now act on. Let us see, what if anything, the VML has to say on the subject. I just offered my opinion, whether you like it or not.

    Legally I, as anyone else, have the right to question what our government is doing. There is nothing illegal questioning running of our Town government.

    If you ever want to use your expertise in psychology to delve into my mind, as I have said on other occasions, I am willing to meet with anyone to discuss our positions.

     
  • At 7/05/2006 6:59 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    There you go again with "meeting" you. I see somebody else has refused to have coffee with you because of your obvious distorted views and your obvious dislike of the Mayor and the Council persons. It is apparent that you have a deep seated complex and cannot communicate coherently with anyone who disagrees with you.

    I do know what makes Mayor Printz tick. His character and compassion shine though with his love of people; his willingness to help everyone, no matter who they are. As someone else also stated - you seem to have one goal in mind - that is make as much trouble as you can for the Mayor and the council. Since you suffered such a dismal showing by the Elkton voters, you can't accept the fact that the voters didn't want you. Get over it. They just picked the good people they could TRUST.

    Oh yes, our council members have gotten off to a rousing start in cleaning up the mess the former council left. Also, keep in mind that there is a decided difference between a "Letter of Termination" and a "Letter of Resignation." You clearly have the two confused, as confused as your diatribe saying you thought the ousting of Donachy was "invalid". You know better than the lawyers who were consulted? You seem to love to make as much trouble as you can for others don't you? I can't blame the blogger who said he would not log on to the blogs anymore. We admire him tremendously! We'll do the same. Hope someday you will find out there are more important things in the world than to hang on to your jealousy, anger and hatred, and impose it on others.

     
  • At 7/05/2006 7:14 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Dear Anonymous: Just read your posting and pray you do not stop blogging. You make a world of sense in telling it like it is. We need more people like you who write sensible, intelligent letters - unlike the people who spew their inane diatribes over and over again. You appear to know exactly how to get your points across. Please reconsider your decision?

     
  • At 7/05/2006 7:38 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    Once again you misquote me. I never said Mr. Donachy's letter was a resignation. I guess your degree in whatever field you majored did not teach you how to read and comprehend.

    I have my reasons for my views and have documented proof of things I have posted along with much more. In your blind devotion you accept things as status quo and things go on their merry way.

    I have not written anything about the new council other than I thought the termination was not valid and the meeting also was not valid. Again if the letter was recinded I believe it did not exist. Use your education to look at things logically. If something does not exist in the eyes of the law how can it be acted upon. All I have asked from the VML is for a ruling. If I am wrong, so be it.

    As to the validity of the entire meeting I believe there should probably have been an open work session to decide the agenda for the first council meeting. The meeting held on Sat was so scripted that one can only wonder how it all came about without prior meetings of the new council and Mr. Printz.

    Changing of Town attorneys also seems a bit odd. Nothing against Mr. Tom Miller, but he is the attorney brought in by Mr. Printz to offer his opinion on changing the charter. We had a town attorney knowledgable in municipal law and was guiding the town on the legal points of the charter legislation. Why did Mr. Printz deem it necessary to bring his own attorney in to offer his opinion. Another attempt by Mr. Printz to get things to go his way.

    If you look at things said and written it always seems to be about one person.

    The first time I met Mr. Printz at my home, he pounded on my kitchen table and said "I deserve to be mayor". Nobody deserves to be mayor. It is a privilege and an honor that must be earned. He also gave me a piece of paper with a title of Mayors Duties:

    1. The mayor is over the police

    2. The town manager reports to the council and the mayor.

    3. The mayor is c.e.o. of the town and has the right to check all financial transactions, use of town equipment, and facilities to insure proper use. (this is also the right of each and every citizen in the town.)

    The mayor and council must be notified of all trips. Mayor needs to sign off.

    The mayor is chief spokesman, and deals with all media

    The town manager will supply the council and the mayor a schedule of meetings

    The mayor sets the agenda

    two year term for the mayor

    Mayor and Council? discretionary money.

    Town manager will notify the mayor and the council in writing of any capitol expenditure put in the budget, or before purchase for approval.

    The town manager will notify the mayor if he intends to take time off so the mayor can stand in.

    Notice how often he has put the mayor before the council. A lot of what he said on the paper is untrue unless he was deemed the Chief Administrative Officer, per state code. Under the last council this was not the case. In a previous post I stated the state code of the mayors duties if a seperate CAO or town manager existed.

    It is all about power, and some fault existed on both sides, but per Mr. Printz's own statement he worked hard to undermine the position of town manager in his quest to get rid of the position.

    As one country song says: Stand By Your Man

     
  • At 7/05/2006 8:08 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    The stupidity of some people is absolutely astounding. I will answer for the blogger who says he will not log on anymore to the blogs because he feels it only posits over and over again the one dementional ravings of a certain body.

    Get this into your little pea brain - Mr. Donachy submitted a "Letter of Termination" to the former council members before the May Town Council Meeting. This letter was not accepted - so Mr. Donachy withdrew it. The blogger never said Mr. Donachy submitted a
    "Letter of Resignation." Get your facts straight - and don't misconstrue what you read on the blog. I don't blame the blogger for signing off. He apparently has you pegged correctly. You accept nobody's opinion but your own. No wonder they don't want to meet with you - you are a study in frustration because you don't relate to them with your arrogant attitude.

     
  • At 7/05/2006 8:17 PM, Blogger jeff said…

    Vic:

    This little ditty was written a few years back and the voters of Elkton did just that...

    That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

    This is what the people want and you will again have an opportunity to make a change at another time. If in fact Wayne is as bad as you portray him, we will take care of it. Elkton has a nice checks and balances system built into our character. If Wayne gets out of hand, we'll replace him. We've done it before.

     
  • At 7/05/2006 10:26 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Trying to convince the followers of WP of his true nature is like trying to convince the followers of David Koresh or Charles Manson as to their true nature. It probably can't be done. As one blogger said, There are none so blind as those who can not see.

     
  • At 7/05/2006 11:06 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I was just turned on to this blog by a friend who thinks it is hilarious - that is if you take it seriously. I think it was intended for a form of debate, but the persons who write on here have lost there way. It appears to be a dogmatic type of debate to see who can post the most disturbing, sort of drivel. The other type seems to want to uphold the dignity of the Town and its Town officials. Personally, I prefer the latter type, because we are sick and tired of people who's aim seems to be to "slam" the Mayor at every turn and to dish up all the dirt they think they are entitled to dispense. They are so unhappy within themselves they can't think logically. Now the busy bodies post their vicious critiques and think the people of Elkton care what they are embracing. Good news! The people of Elkton are too intelligent to be snowed by their twisted thinking. The results of the recent election should have given them a clue that those who stir up discord, are isolated and given short shrift. Get the picture!!!

     
  • At 7/05/2006 11:09 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    The Wayne Printz fan club might not like me but I will continue to publish the facts as they come to my attention.

    Each time I catch someone mis-stating fact, I will bring it out. If I find, with proof, any mis-use of office, I will bring it out. If I find, with proof, personal favors being done with town resourses I will bring it out. Not only will I bring out misdeeds, they will also be reported to the proper authorities. There are no threats here. Just fact.

    Someone asked what gives me the right to do what I do. Everyone has the right to expect our town to be run legally and ethically. Something that has not be done on numerous occasions in the past. Money misspent comes out of the pockets of every citizen in town.

    I may be a citizen watchdog committee of one, but I feel someone should do it. If noone is watching the hen house the fox will have a field day. Because most of you posting do not seem to care what goes on here does not mean everything is peachy keen.

     
  • At 7/05/2006 11:23 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Well, my friend, welcome to what is currently called the "ineffectual, arrogant ravings of obviously unhappy characters - esecially one who thinks he is the social arbitor of what should transpire with the Town and its duly elected officials. Don't pay attention to him - he's a nothing. There are some very decent human beings who post on the blogs, who have common sense, decency and extreme intelligence. Glom on to those necause they are uplifting and make you proud of our Town. Some will criticize your right to support the Mayor, but they only show they think their views are superior to yours. Ah, the poor, poor midguided souls. Have fun!"

     
  • At 7/05/2006 11:56 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Just because the big Wayne fan is suffering from cranial rectal inversion does not mean the rest of the world will follow suit.

     
  • At 7/06/2006 9:32 AM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    If you abide being lied to, cheated out of you tax dollars, and being told what you want to hear and not what is actual then I think my views are superior to yours.

    It is amazing what I have been approached about by total strangers. Just a couple of weeks ago I was approached while shopping at Food Lion by a gentleman who said he was at one time a utility meter reader here in Elkton. He discovered that a number of friends and family members were not having their utility meters read, therefore they were not paying for their utilities. When the man brought this to the attention of town hall his life was threatened if he persised with the issue. Then he was fired. If this man were the only one telling me things I would probably have doubts as to the validity, but a number of others have also brought this type of behavior to my attention.

    Is this the kind of government you want in our town? As I said, if you abide by this type of politics then my views are far superior to yours.

     
  • At 7/06/2006 7:56 PM, Blogger jeff said…

    Seriously Vic:

    How is Wayne Printz cheating me out of my tax dollars. I see it this way. He wants to save money by canceling the audit and save money by getting rid of Mr. Donachy. I understand your position would be to spend that money out of principal rather than use it to say fix "Kids Castle" or pay our police officers a fair salary.

    Do you remember Iran-Contra. Do you remember President Reagan saying, "I do not recall" while under oath. How about Vice President Bush stating, "I was out of the loop." This is what politicians do. Be they in Washington or Elkton. Maybe, just maybe they lose track of things from time to time. I know I do. I've been looking for a stupid screwdriver for three days now. I know I'll find it as soon as I buy another.

    Here is another thought. Maybe, just maybe Wayne has changed his position on things from time to time. We all do. I sure wish all our elected leaders would change their position if it was the will of the people.

    I believe that you might find it far easier to effect change with a different approach.

    This is Elkton. In order to effect change you must become one of the "good ol boys". Like it or not, that is how it is.

    Perhaps some day when the majority of voters are not locals, it will change. Then we can be just like Harrisonburg.

    Sad...

     
  • At 7/06/2006 11:11 PM, Blogger Will Vaught said…

    hey now, watch it..what's wrong with Harrisonburg????????

     
  • At 7/06/2006 11:52 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    Jeff, Getting rid of Mr. Donachy is not saving any money. The motion made and passed on Saturday is to pay him through the end of his contract in September and then to pay him for any accrued vacation and/or benefits.

    I agree that canceling the audit would save the cost but is it the correct thing to do? If I as a real estate client falsely accused you publicly, of cheating me on a contract would you not want the opportunity to have your name cleared publicly? I know I would. Not only did Mr. Printz’s accusations, “questions” cast dispersions at Mr. Donachy, I believe they also cast dispersions at the old council because of their support of Dennis. A also believe that there is a big concern on the part of some as to what might be revealed by the audit. You know, the “good ol boy” network.

    I believe that sometimes the will of the people may not be the correct thing to do for the benefit of the town. In this case Mr. Printz and past councils did things that have put the town in serious financial jeopardy. If no source of money is found, how will the town survive this excessive debt. You complained, as I have, about being annexed, what do you think your town taxes will do if money is not found to run the town and pay down the debt. Already we get no more benefit for the additional taxes we pay to Elkton than we received as county residents.

    We have an avenue to help the financial situation. Why not move forward with it using due diligence and try to address any concerns as they arise. I believe the result of not doing so will result in dire financial consequences for the town.

    Your comment about “This is Elkton”, This is the exact reason things are as they are politically here because no one but the “good ol boys” get involved. Maybe if enough people start asking questions and demanding answers the good ol boy network might be seriously weakened. As long as apathy exists things will remain status quo.

     
  • At 7/07/2006 9:26 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Funny isn't is that the Home page is no longer on the Internet. If a certain computer had to be retrieved, just what important information did it contain? And did a certain party have anything to do with the some of the horribly, nasty blogs posted therein???

    Thank God for the common sense people who do not spit their vitriol on the blogs. We appreciate those bloggers who really think things through and use their intellect to refute those who seem to think only their garbage matters. We are so estatic that Donachy is no longer the Town Manager. It is worth the two extra month's salary to get his stinky backside out of Elkton. Break out the insecticide and deodarant - we aim to clean up this town the right way with our new council and re-elected Mayor. Aah - that fresh air sure does smell good.

     
  • At 7/07/2006 10:44 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    How long do you think all of this goodness is going to last. There is now back in office a number of those who could not get along when they served together before.

    One created such animosity on the council that Bobby Horne resigned because of his actions and big mouth.

    Wayne testified against Lee Dearing at a lawsuit against the town.

    Wayne stated he believed Lee was postulating to lay ground work for his political comeback.

    Wayne and Lee are already playing dictator in town hall. How long before their collective egos clash as to who is the premier of Elkton.

    Lee has stated that Wayne needs to learn to keep his mouth shut.

    Do you really think as Wayne said in an interview. He can swallow his pride and work with Lee. I doubt that seriously.

    As Jeff said the good old boy network in Elkton is alive and well.

     
  • At 7/07/2006 11:07 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Jeff, You asked Vic how your tax dollars are being wasted.

    One way is having the Director of Public Works send a crew to spread stone on an unimproved street, Corvette Dr. (Illegal Sign), off of 6th St. On this unimproved street is a private citizen's garage and two derelict vans. Prior to utility lines being run, this area was just grass. This favor benefits just one person and one person only.

    The promise of sending stone was made on election day and was witnessed by several persons. The citizen yelled to Wayne, You'll send me a load of stone, to which
    Wayne replied, I'll send you two loads. Vote buying, maybe.

    Your tax dollars at work.

     
  • At 7/08/2006 12:03 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    Could my grass roots effort be taking root? Looks as if someone else has seen and heard things not quite right in Town Hall.

    I think I will sit back a bit and keep an eye on things in Town Hall and see what transpires.

    Myself and a few others are starting a Citizens Watchdog Committee. Named for now A Better Elkton (ABE) Watch for an announcement in the papers shortly. Concerned citizins will be recruited to assist in keeping an eye on Town Hall operations. An e-mail account has been opened to receive querys about becoming part of this group and for concerned folks to report things they see in town that are amiss.

    You may report downed street signs, hazardous street conditions, maintenance items you may think need attention. These will be gathered and reported to the council for their consideration.

    If you are interested in becomeing a partisipant in ABE, or wish to report problems, please send an e-mail to:

    abetterelkton@yahoo.com

    Again, please keep your caustic comments to yourself. Remember e-mail addresses can be traced by the authorities. This will hopefully be a positive venture for the betterment of our town.

     
  • At 7/08/2006 3:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    FOR HEAVENS SAKE - HAS SOMEONE LOST THEIR MINDS? MUST EVERYTHING THE MAYOR SAYS AND DOES BE SUSPECT IN CERTAIN PEOPLE'S LITTLE MINDS? HOW IS IT THAT SOMEONE WHO LOST IN AN ELECTION CAN BE SO BITTER THAT HE WOULD TAKE THE TOWN OF ELKTON DOWN SO LOW? WHATEVER DID ELKTON DO TO DESERVE THIS? GOD HELP US ALL!!

     
  • At 7/08/2006 5:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Other good things that could come out of ABE. How about folks getting together to adopt streets and roads in town and have regular patrols to pick up trash and litter.

    Other folks might like to help create flower beds around town for some local beautification. Others might like to get involved restoring the shabby tennis courts at town hall. Help raise money for fixing the Kids Castle.

    There is room for many types of folks that would like to get involved in A Better Elkton. Some probably would not want to be involved in promoting a fair and ethical government but would like to be involved in beautification and maintenance projects. Much good could come out of ABE. There is room for lots of folks to get involved.

    It might even be possible to get businesses to sponsor the group and help with the finances for beautification projects and the like.

    DID YOU SEE ANY MENTION OF WAYNE IN VIC'S LAST POST. DON'T BE SO PARANOID. YOU MIGHT EVEN WANT TO GET INVOLVED AND DO SOMETHING USEFUL.

     
  • At 7/08/2006 5:05 PM, Blogger jeff said…

    Vic & the ABE Gang:

    While it is every citizens right to know what their elected officials are doing, I have to question this latest approach. Imagine yourself in their shoes. Just put a human face on it for a second. How would you like each and every day to start off with a new bitch about something. Bob's grass is too high, enforce it. I saw a cigarette butt on the street, pick it up. The web site doesn't have this or that on it, fix it. We need a speed bump here, we need a stop sign there, we need, we need, we need.

    This WILL!!!! in effect cripple the town. How about instead of a "watchdog" group, start a "lend a helping hand" group.

    Don't make it personal. Be constructive, be positive. Build on the good things and work positively to help the bad. This need to shove things in peoples faces just doesn't sit right.

    Look...if you see something blatantly wrong, bring it up in a constructive way. Don't go on a witch hunt looking for petty things.

    At this critical time in our small town, the last thing we need is people being a pain in the ass just because they can.

     
  • At 7/08/2006 5:32 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    Jeff, I would hope those involved would be able to prioritize things presented to the council and eliminate the petty items. Take a look at the last anonymous post, I agree with this approach. As they said, there is room for many types of activities in ABE.

    If enough folks get involved there could be different committees, beatification, maintenance, etc.. You might even like to get involved and chair the green committee.

    There is lots of room for discussion and when enough people get interested these different activities could materialize. Your constructive input would be most welcome.

    If sufficient folks get involved much good could come out of this effort. It is not all about being a pain to town hall. There are many fine folk there and I in no way wish to make their life miserable. Some are already doing that.

    I believe there are those that want to be involved in watching the government and those that want to get involved in other projects. The more the merrier. Again hopefully much good can come out of this effort.

     
  • At 7/08/2006 7:17 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Jeff at 5:05 PM. God bless you. Finally someone with good common sense. Finally someone is asking that people do something constructive and non-self-serving for a change. What a refreshing blog - now we know there are people in Elkton who want to do good things for this town. Who wants a type of "Gestapo" surveilence - a mean-spirited "Gotcha". Look who is talking about miserable people - isn't that the "pot calling the kettle black?" Who is more miserable than self-righteous people who want others to be as miserable as they are?

    Anyway, thanks again for your gracious blog. We were going to stop reading the blogs, but yours caught our eyes, and it made our day. Keep it up - you seem like the kind of person we can relate to, as we all want Elkton to be a great town to live in. and where we can all live in peace. Bless you!

     
  • At 7/08/2006 8:37 PM, Blogger jeff said…

    Hey Vic:


    I gotta know. Was beatification a typo. If not, good one. Sorry I missed the previous post as I was typing mine.

    Yes we "could" do alot, but it takes money. A campaign to raise money for a project that benefits many rather than a few eases the burden on the taxpayer and is "goal specific". Involving the council and Mayor invites legitimacy and harmony. A little out there but a dunking booth with Wayne Printz seated on it could be great for all. You get the booth, I'll bring the Mayor. We could donate all the proceeds to fix "Kids Castle".

    THINK POSITIVE!!!

    To the 7:17 poster...Thank you

     
  • At 7/09/2006 12:00 AM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    Jeff, Yes, that was a typo. The brain thinks faster than the old fingers can type at times. In your 8:37 post what did you mean by (A little out there but a dunking booth)?

    As the 5:00 poster said maybe ABE could attempt to get local businesses involved with helping to get and keep things going. Another possibile source of assistance might be the Ruritan Club. Civic groups such as the 4H, Girl Scouts, even the Neighborhood Watch earn a share of the proceeds of the chicken barbeques for their help in running the operation. I have helped out there a couple of times myself. Might be worth approaching them.

    I have no problem working with the Town Council, as I have said previously, but I would find it exceedingly difficult working with Mr. Printz. That is my cross to bear.

    Based on conversations with a number of citizens there seems to be quite a defeatest attitude out there. As you yourself said “This is Elkton. In order to effect change you must become one of the "good ol boys". Like it or not, that is how it is.” This is one thing I refuse to accept. With this attitude it would be impossible to affect change until all the good ol boys are dead and gone. I do not think you or I have that many years left on this earth. They are always out there. Good Ol Boys breed good ol boys.

    Time will tell. Let us see what kind of response is received once the newspaper announcement is made. I await your e-mail to abetterelkton@yahoo.com.

     
  • At 7/09/2006 10:54 AM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    Going back a few posts, I did some looking into the post about stone being spread on an un-improved street.

    Sure enough, behind a house at Fairfax and Sixth is a private garage and the two junk vans.

    Fresh gravel has been spread on the dirt 'street'. Guess who I am told had Marty send the stone?

    Was this a political favor? Our tax dollars wasted? Something Marsha Garst may be interested in? Pictures and an e-mail.

    Now let us hear the righteous indignation from the faithful.

     
  • At 7/09/2006 5:53 PM, Blogger jeff said…

    From the "Faithful"

    Now, now. Let's not jump the gun here. There might be good reason gravel was delivered to that spot and at this moment we don't know exactly who, why, were and when. This is what I've been trying to get at all along.

    Vic, you've admitted difficulty working with the Mayor. Obviously it has become personal and that taints your views. Your opinions contain no objectivity and that's unfortunate.

    The "a bit out there" was the idea of dunking our elected for a buck is a little obscure, but would certainly raise a few dollars.

    How much would you spend trying to dunk Wayne into a pool of water?

     
  • At 7/09/2006 6:17 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    I was one of those who heard the dialog and the promise on election day. It was in the parking lot behind town hall and was witnessed by more than me.

    A couple of days later I asked Marty if a request was made to deliver stone by you know who. He told me where and when. By checking the address I was able to determine who. It was not rocket science.

    I do not believe my view is tainted. There is much I have seen and been told that has formulated my opinion. When perfect strangers approach me on the street and tell me things, after a while you tend to believe. If it were only one or two I would have my doubts.

    I would not spend any money to dunk Mr. Printz. It would have no useful purpose other than to further his 'good ol boy' image. Look at that, Wayne is able to make a fool of himself.

     
  • At 7/09/2006 7:40 PM, Blogger jeff said…

    Vic:

    I'm not a "good ole boy" nor do intend to become one. Somehow this term is being mis-represented as a bad thing.

    As for corruption, here's a fact...

    If it were not for corruption, we would be killing each other in the streets for scraps of food. Our entire form form of government is based on corruption. We just give it nicer words, but that is the only way things get done. All the way to the top from local government to federal government as well as internationaly. I am not being cynical, this is the way democracy and capitalism work. Favors, good ol boy, back scratching and yes behind the scenes work that you or I should not know about if we want to maintain the American way of life.

     
  • At 7/09/2006 8:04 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    Jeff, I may not be able to do much about corruption on the national scale, except by exercising my right to vote, but I feel I may be able to do a bit more locally.

    When stuff is done so blatently and in your face I believe it is time to take a stand. I know it will be difficult and maybe impossible but I believe that is because there are enough that are on the receiving end of the Philanthropy that they do not want the gravy train to end.

    As Mr. Printz has said, I am not making accusations, I just am asking questions.

    I have been told that you just love a good debate and will say things you really do not believe just to get a rise out of your debating rival. I hope that is the case here as if you really believe that corruption and such are OK, I feel we really do not have much more to debate.

     
  • At 7/09/2006 8:29 PM, Blogger jeff said…

    Vic:

    You must have speaking with my wife. Yes I like a good debate and yes I will from time to time encourage a discussion. What I don't encourage is the denigration of individuals.

    The idea of a happy world were everybody eats gummy bears and cigarettes are harmless sounds good, but ain't gonna happen.

    "Imagine there's no Heaven". Relax everybody, I'm just quoting the line from a song.

    I'll say it again. I really do think that you, me and everybody else can get our local government to be more responsive and responsible by playing nice. It is human nature to fight fire with fire and maybe, just maybe it's time to put out those fires and move "FORWARD".

    Let's get back to Angler. Do they have the money to do the job and are they hoping Elkton defaults to save their butts?

     
  • At 7/09/2006 10:35 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    Do you really think Angler would have negotiated a contract and signed same if they did not have the resources to follow through.

    Would it make sense for Angler to go through all of the engineering studies, EPA requirements, creating the master plan just to fool around and look for a way out. Unlike the members of both the old and new council, the folks at Angler are businessmen in business to make a profit. It does not seem likely the would take the time to play games with a town as small as Elkton.

    The closing on the Kite property was scheduled for the 30th of May. After all four of the council elect campaigned against the golf course I believe Angler had real reservations to the ability of the new council and Mr. Printz to follow through with the town's responsibilities as specified in the contract.

    Campaign material for Gene Kite, Margaretta Isom, Lee Dearing, and Mike O'Neill all specified "no town owned golf course". Even after it was proven legally that the town has no liability they still, along with Mr. Printz, have serious concerns.

    Up until one of the council meetings when Angler appeared asking for a delay, Not one of the council elect had bothered to obtain a copy of the contracts to read and understand them.

    Even as late as the first of July, no one on the council knew two pertinent items in the contract. At the first meeting of the new council Mr. Printz questioned how much the deposit was on the contract and Mr. O'Neill asked whether the site of the spring on the Kite property was to be deeded seperately to the town.

    If they had bothered to read and understand the contract they would have known that the deposit was $100,000 and indeed the Spring site was seperated out for ownership retention by the town. When Mr. O'Neill posed the question about the spring, I responded that indeed it was in the contract, he responded, "that is what you say". It was not what I say, but what is in the contract.

    If Angler truely wanted to walk away they have ample reasons. Things stipulated in the contract for the town to complete have not been completed. Instead of walking because of these items, one being sewer and water lines being run to the property by May 30th, they elected to ask for a delay instead. Per the contract they have every right to walk and bill the town for the 3 million plus they have already spent.

     
  • At 7/10/2006 8:19 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Wonder why some of the previous blogs which contained a lot of good common sense are suddenly gone from this blog? Some little Gremlin intercepting missives they don't want published? Don't like the answers to certain blogs? Be fair - publish ALL the blogs - not selective ones. Are some of these blogs being monitored? Just asking!

     
  • At 7/10/2006 12:11 PM, Blogger Will Vaught said…

    Not sure, there are 188 comments on this one artilce. maybe the software starts deleting post after a certain amount? I don't know..but what I do know is I DO NOT censore commetns unless they are profane.

     
  • At 7/10/2006 3:53 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    A Hypothetical scenario.

    Seems like in Gotherm City an employee was suspended on suspicion of wrong doing. A minor emergncy occurred in Gothem City and the mayor of Gother City, without consulting the head of the Dept. of Public Works (DPW)recalled the employee to work the emergency.

    Did the mayor of Gothem City think the head of the DPW was not capable of handling the situation and make the correct decisions? If the mayor of Gother City wants to put his two cents into the operation of each department, why does Gothem City need dept. heads. Think of the savings in salary and benefits.

    With some diligent searches of the courts databases, it is found the emplyee has actually been indicted on some rather serious charges. Why then did the mayor and council of Gother City re-instate the employee to full time work?

    Is Gothem City putting itself at risk if something happens on the job to jeopardize other employees or the general public?

    As Arte Johnson would say, "Very Interesting"

     
  • At 7/10/2006 5:23 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Does ths guy ever quit? Does he ever sleep, or is he too busy digging up all the garbage he can to post on the blog? We have some news for you - the Mayor never reads any of the blogs. So it's a total waste to continue to trash him over and over again. Yep! It is obvious that there is a tainted bias on the part of one person who seems to have a one-sided vendetta against our Mayor and all others who do not think as he does. The hatred against the Mayor is so blatant, that many of us are beginning to feel the same toward his tormentor. We are WATCHDOGS too, and we will monitor everything that is posted herein.
    The name of the game is "love your neighbor as you love yourself".
    Capisch, comprende!

     
  • At 7/10/2006 6:21 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    I do sleep and quite soundly with a clear conscience. Mr. Printz may not read the posts but I would wager FWD and others print things out and pass them around as occurred at one council meeting. Mr. Printz even commented to me one night that "I read what your write".

    I care not if Mr. Printz reads the posts. The idea is to inform others as to what is happening, he already knows. As long as I write the facts and ask pertinent questions, what is wrong with that. Have I diparaged you in any way?

    Was there something about my last post that hit a sore spot? I just questioned the logic of possibly putting the town at risk.

     
  • At 7/10/2006 8:22 PM, Blogger jeff said…

    Holy Conspiracy BatVic:

    Be specific. Name names, times and exact incidents or do you fear retribution. Remember how to catch flies.

    As for Angler, obviously you do not know the intricacies of big business and real estate.

    1. Angler Broadlands LLC is a separate entity designed to shield the motherland from a bad thing like defaulting.

    2. Big business does not use its own money. It borrows and uses equity.

    3. When the deal was originally put together, interest rates were much, yes much lower. One point is not alot to you and me because we don't have 30 or 40 million at stake in total investment. If interest rated were 5% at the start and are now 6%, that's a 20% increase.

    Unfortunately Elkton should have consulted several real estate brokers for advice rather than an attorney. While an attorney can advise on legal issues and attorney cannot act in the best interest of the town if it does not know what those interests are. Cindy, Pete, Louise and Barry could have and should have all been consulted and then maybe a couple in Harrisonburg.

    The contract is far more complicated than it should have been and it cannot be expected of the Mayor, council and town manager to fully comprehend.

    I'm just saying "Show me the money".

     
  • At 7/10/2006 8:52 PM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    Because the Gothem City situation is a personnel issue I do not want to name names because the trial is not over so actual guilt has not been decided by a jury. But the fact that an indictment has been made it does not seem prudent to chance a problem. In Gothem City attempts at retribution are a possibility. It has been done before.

    All issues aside with Angler, the town has not completed some items that were specified to be completed by May 31, 2006 so they are in their rights to walk. Hopefully not.

     
  • At 7/10/2006 10:44 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    There is a whole contingent out in Elkton who are reading the blogs and trying to comprehend why someone hates the Mayor so much they would go to such extremes to distort everything he says and does. Is this guy for real? Why should he be so vehement and angry. Why is he villifying the Mayor, and by virtue of their working with the Mayor, the council, and decent people of Elkton? Several words come to mind, such as stalking and harrassment. The blogger who said they are "Watchdogs" too, we have a great group who will join you in your pursuit of peace and dignity. Count on it!

     
  • At 7/10/2006 10:55 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    So somebody prints articles off the computer and disperses them to the Mayor and the Town Council persons. How do you know they are not articles of interest from the internet on how other counties conduct their council meetings? I've read these printouts and they are very informative and helpful to the council and various committees in our Town. Don't assume things you know nothing about. Are you that paranoid that you think you might be mentioned in those articles? Think again!

     
  • At 7/10/2006 11:10 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    First time blogger who wonders what all the carping is about regarding the Mayor. Have talked to
    people who rside in Elkton, and they think the Mayor is getting a bum rap from someone has a decided hatred for him. All the friends I have talked to are indignent that someone who is a relative newcomer to the area would indulge himself with so much negativity towards elected officials. I understand that this man ran for council and lost by a huge margin. Is that why he doesn't like the Mayor and is trying to dig up all sorts of implied wrongdoing? Thank heavens we don't have anybody that pompous in our area. Our prayers are with the wonderful people of Elkton, and especially the good Mayor.

     
  • At 7/10/2006 11:49 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Andre - we have contacted the "powers that be" and you will be hearing from them shortly. Papers are being processed and will be presented soon, along with an attached signed petition.

    Again, thanks for informing us of what is transpiring. We have numerous copies from other entities and these will also be presented in due time.

    Realize blogs can be very informative as to content and veracity. Thanks, R

     
  • At 7/11/2006 9:01 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Very interesting. At the regular council meeting on Dec 19,2005, Mr. Printz stated he would work to eliminate the town managers position, "it does not work".

    In todays DNR Mr. Dearing said Mr. Printz is now the acting town manager. Will Mr. Printz now work to eliminate his own job?

    I hear tell we now have three directors of public works.

     
  • At 7/11/2006 9:54 AM, Anonymous Vic Corbo said…

    A public service announcement:

    The regular Elkton Town Council committee meeting scheduled for Tuesday, July 11, has been moved to Thursday July 13. at the Elkton Volunteer Fire Dept activities center on Rt. 340.

    Special Council Meeting:

    The Town Council of the Town of Elkton will meet at 5:00 PM in closed session with Angler Broadlands LLC to discuss potential land acquisition.

    Special Council Meeting:

    The Town Council of the town of Elkton will meet at 6:00 PM to discuss the following:

    1. Economic Development Position
    2. Electric connection fees
    3. Action on promotion to Sergent of the police dept.
    4. Policy on paying delinquent taxes and bills before issuing permits
    5. Kids Castle
    6. Employee salaries
    7. Zoning authority for the mayor
    8. Meals tax
    9. Estimate on tree service.

    Regular scheduled committee meetings to follow.

    Town Hall Meeting at 7:00 PM following the regular committee meeting.

    The Town Council of the Town of Elkton invites citizens to this meeting to discuss concerns regarding the Town and meet newly elected Council officials.

    Be there or be square. (my words)

     

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